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Edit2: TRA have found this post. Just a heads up.

Edit: This is the sanitized summary of the incendiary text. I agree with the general overall message Lily made in her post, but not how she said it. You guys come to your own judgements.

If these men can’t slit the throats of these vile personas in public, [...] if you left it up to me, I’d execute every last one of them [personas] personally. [...] Lynch [the persona known as] Kaitlyn! Lynch [the persona known as] the “Sisters” Wachowski! Lynch [the persona known as] Laurel Hubbard! Lynch [the persona known as] Fallon Fox! Make these men [behind the personas] stand up as the men you all know they are and hold them accountable for their shame."

For more reading, /u/Mikkal has done a more in-depth summary here.

==== Original Post ========

Welp. There we go. There's finally proof of a "TERF" actively wishing them harm.

Did she have to threaten violence?? She gave them fuel and they are roaring.

She's a lesbian and a porn actress who goes by Lily Cade. Her website is down (presumably from getting cancelled, ironically, because she was going on and on about how she can't be taken down) and there are no snapshots on archives I could find. Got it. Here it is, the archive of the full original post: https://archive.ph/43TBv (There is an unfortunate NSFW capture at the very bottom of the page of oral sex being performed, be warned.) It's viler than what was reported. I can't believe this. She calls the mothers she's addressing in her post "b!tches"!

Fucking thank you, Lily, for undoing the strides made and for proving people like Terra Field right about "people who don't want us to be (alive)".

Article: https://archive.ph/lyR4h | https://www.newsweek.com/anti-transgender-activist-quoted-bbc-calls-trans-women-lynched-1645231

Anti-Transgender Activist Quoted by BBC Calls For Trans Women to Be 'Lynched'

An anti-transgender activist recently quoted in a controversial BBC article posted online advocating for violence against transgender women and called for them to be lynched.

Lily Cade, a lesbian porn star who apologized amid a series of sexual assault allegations in 2017, was featured in a controversial BBC article that claims trans women pressure lesbians into sex.

In a post on her website called "Where the are these children's mothers," Cade characterized trans women as "vile, weak, disgusting whiny, fake-victim" and supported acts of violence against them.

"Cancel this so hard that no man dare walk the path of the trans woman in public ever again! Enough is enough. Lynch Kaitlyn (Jenner)! Lynch the 'Sisters' Wachowski! Lynch Laurel Hubbard! Lynch Fallon Fox!" the post read.

Cade continued to argue that trans women are not really women and said if it were up to her, she'd execute "every last one of them personally."

"They can't take down Lily Cade. She's already dead. I'm the bullet, b!tch, if you let me be. Who else has the balls, the brains, the voice, and the pitiless eyes to fight these mothers? I'm a f%cking soldier. You ready? I'm ready," Cade wrote.

She continued that the only transgender person she respects is Buck Angel because "she knows she made a horrifying mistake," called for trans women to die by suicide, likened them to Satan and implied gay marriage was a mistake.

Since the BBC published its article on October 26, it's faced huge backlash for the piece, which many have called transphobic and dangerous.

The article is primarily based on the experiences of anonymous lesbians who claim they have been threatened and shamed into having sex with transgender women.

Cade was described as "Porn Valley's Gold Star Lesbian" in the article for only ever having sex with other women but claimed she faced criticism for not wanting to sleep with trans women.

A number of anti-transgender LGB groups were cited in the article and utilized a study based on members already inside the organizations.

Trans Media Watch (TMW), a pro-transgender watchdog group, condemned the article.

"Either the BBC have failed to do due diligence on this story – or the team producing this story have knowingly colluded in a disinformation campaign targeted at trans people ... Irresponsible reporting like this is dangerous. It significantly and adversely impacts trans people's day-to-day lives," they wrote.

BBC defended the article and told LGBTQ media outlet Pink News that the topic is a "complex subject."

"It is important that journalism looks at issues – even where there are strongly held positions," the BBC said, defending the article. "The BBC is here to ensure debate and to make sure a wide range of voices are heard."

Since the post on Cade's website—which has crashed—people are calling for the BBC to take action.

Fallon Fox's Tweet with screenshots from the now non-functioning lilycade.com website: https://archive.ph/AknuI | https://mobile.twitter.com/FallonFox/status/1455608366433136640

Transcript of screenshots with full context:

Speak truth to power. Trans women are men. They know they are men. If these men can't slit the throats of these vile personas in public, admit what they have done, take off the dress, look with abject shame upon the affront to God and nature they have wrought in the service of their masturbatory fantasies, apologize for the children they have hurt with their lies and their drugs and their grooming, apologize for the incarcerated women they have fed to rapist monsters, apologize for the lesbian spaces they have desecrated, and devote the rest of their lives to repairing the damage they have done, if you left it up to me, I'd execute every last one of them personally.

Cancel the ever living fuck out of this. Cancel this so hard that no man dare walk the path of the trans woman in public ever again! Enough is enough. Lynch Kaitlyn! Lynch the “Sisters” Wachowski! Lynch Laurel Hubbard! Lynch Fallon Fox! Make these men stand up as the men you all know they are and hold them accountable for their shame. Your fear of the truth has shoveled thousands of children down the hole in Buffalo Bill's basement so he can harvest them for their skins. Enough is Enough.

Lily's twitter archive: https://archive.ph/OW3zF | https://mobile.twitter.com/lily_cade/status/1455559679984091139

I can't find the one about asking them to commit suicide and again, said site is down. All I have are Fallon's screenshots. See archive post in first paragraph for full context. I think it might be this line: "They threatened suicide [...] Fucking do it then!"

I'm unspeakably disappointed about this on so many fronts. Here we are saying, "none of us want them dead, no one wishes that, we just disagree that transwomen are women, please listen to us", and what does Lily do???

Edit2: TRA have found this post. Just a heads up. **Edit:** This is the sanitized summary of the incendiary text. I agree with the general overall message Lily made in her post, but not how she said it. You guys come to your own judgements. >If these men can’t slit the throats of **these vile personas** in public, *[...]* if you left it up to me, I’d execute every last one of them *[personas]* personally. *[...]* Lynch *[the persona known as]* Kaitlyn! Lynch *[the persona known as]* the “Sisters” Wachowski! Lynch *[the persona known as]* Laurel Hubbard! Lynch *[the persona known as]* Fallon Fox! Make **these men [*behind the personas*]** stand up as the men you all know they are and hold them accountable for their shame." For more reading, /u/Mikkal has done a [more in-depth summary here](https://ovarit.com/o/GenderCritical/47762). ==== Original Post ======== Welp. There we go. There's finally proof of a "TERF" actively wishing them harm. Did she *have* to threaten violence?? She gave them fuel and they are *roaring*. She's a lesbian and a porn actress who goes by Lily Cade. Her website is down (presumably from getting cancelled, ironically, because she was going on and on about how she can't be taken down) and ~~there are no snapshots on archives I could find.~~ **Got it. Here it is, the archive of the full original post: https://archive.ph/43TBv** (There is an unfortunate NSFW capture at the very bottom of the page of oral sex being performed, be warned.) It's viler than what was reported. I can't believe this. She calls the mothers she's addressing in her post "b!tches"! Fucking *thank you*, Lily, for undoing the strides made and for proving people like Terra Field right about "people who don't want us to be (alive)". **Article:** https://archive.ph/lyR4h | https://www.newsweek.com/anti-transgender-activist-quoted-bbc-calls-trans-women-lynched-1645231 **Anti-Transgender Activist Quoted by BBC Calls For Trans Women to Be 'Lynched'** >An anti-transgender activist recently quoted in a controversial BBC article posted online advocating for violence against transgender women and called for them to be lynched. >Lily Cade, a lesbian porn star who apologized amid a series of sexual assault allegations in 2017, was featured in a controversial BBC article that claims trans women pressure lesbians into sex. >In a post on her website called "Where the are these children's mothers," Cade characterized trans women as "vile, weak, disgusting whiny, fake-victim" and supported acts of violence against them. >"Cancel this so hard that no man dare walk the path of the trans woman in public ever again! Enough is enough. **Lynch Kaitlyn (Jenner)! Lynch the 'Sisters' Wachowski! Lynch Laurel Hubbard! Lynch Fallon Fox!**" the post read. >Cade continued to argue that trans women are not really women and said **if it were up to her, she'd execute "every last one of them personally."** >"They can't take down Lily Cade. She's already dead. I'm the bullet, b!tch, if you let me be. Who else has the balls, the brains, the voice, and the pitiless eyes to fight these mothers? I'm a f%cking soldier. You ready? I'm ready," Cade wrote. >She continued that the only transgender person she respects is Buck Angel because "she knows she made a horrifying mistake," **called for trans women to die by suicide, likened them to Satan and implied gay marriage was a mistake**. >Since the BBC published its article on October 26, it's faced huge backlash for the piece, which many have called transphobic and dangerous. >The article is primarily based on the experiences of anonymous lesbians who claim they have been threatened and shamed into having sex with transgender women. >Cade was described as "Porn Valley's Gold Star Lesbian" in the article for only ever having sex with other women but claimed she faced criticism for not wanting to sleep with trans women. >A number of anti-transgender LGB groups were cited in the article and utilized a study based on members already inside the organizations. >Trans Media Watch (TMW), a pro-transgender watchdog group, condemned the article. >"Either the BBC have failed to do due diligence on this story – or the team producing this story have knowingly colluded in a disinformation campaign targeted at trans people ... Irresponsible reporting like this is dangerous. It significantly and adversely impacts trans people's day-to-day lives," they wrote. >BBC defended the article and told LGBTQ media outlet Pink News that the topic is a "complex subject." >"It is important that journalism looks at issues – even where there are strongly held positions," the BBC said, defending the article. "The BBC is here to ensure debate and to make sure a wide range of voices are heard." >Since the post on Cade's website—which has crashed—people are calling for the BBC to take action. Fallon Fox's Tweet with screenshots from the now non-functioning lilycade.com website: https://archive.ph/AknuI | https://mobile.twitter.com/FallonFox/status/1455608366433136640 Transcript of screenshots with full context: >Speak truth to power. Trans women are men. They know they are men. If these men can't slit the throats of these vile personas in public, admit what they have done, take off the dress, look with abject shame upon the affront to God and nature they have wrought in the service of their masturbatory fantasies, apologize for the children they have hurt with their lies and their drugs and their grooming, apologize for the incarcerated women they have fed to rapist monsters, apologize for the lesbian spaces they have desecrated, and devote the rest of their lives to repairing the damage they have done, **if you left it up to me, I'd execute every last one of them personally.** >Cancel the ever living fuck out of this. Cancel this so hard that no man dare walk the path of the trans woman in public ever again! Enough is enough. **Lynch Kaitlyn! Lynch the “Sisters” Wachowski! Lynch Laurel Hubbard! Lynch Fallon Fox!** Make these men stand up as the men you all know they are and hold them accountable for their shame. Your fear of the truth has shoveled thousands of children down the hole in Buffalo Bill's basement so he can harvest them for their skins. Enough is Enough. Lily's twitter archive: https://archive.ph/OW3zF | https://mobile.twitter.com/lily_cade/status/1455559679984091139 ~~I can't find the one about asking them to commit suicide and again, said site is down. All I have are Fallon's screenshots.~~ See archive post in first paragraph for full context. I think it might be this line: *"They threatened suicide [...] Fucking do it then!"* I'm unspeakably disappointed about this on so many fronts. Here we are saying, "none of us want them dead, no one wishes that, we just disagree that transwomen are women, please listen to us", and what does Lily do???

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[–] littleowl12 1 points Edited

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I still think violent rhetoric is wrong as well as useless, but I do agree it was metaphorical. And I see a lot of the points she's making about the victims of the trans movement.

She is based af.

TiMs are destroying the very DEFINITION of Woman! Why are we trying to be NICE and be polite with a bunch of fetishists using women and children for their masturbatory fodder!? She had every right to rage. I feel her rage.

Yikes. Violence is not cool with me, and she doesn't represent me. I don't care if she's using figurative language or whatever, I don't think it's ok. And I'm not typically one to police the way women go about their feelings/emotions. I don't agree with trans ideology, but these people do not deserve death or violence.

[–] Lilim 5 points Edited

She’s not a feminist so I’m not hand wringing over her words. TRAs are going to make up lies with or without this rant and it’s no different than Conservatives seeing through the bullshit too. Just because we agree on some things, doesn’t mean we agree overall. I think it’s gone beyond Left/Right politics and is now an issue that people from all walks of life are furious over. She has a right to be furious.

I’m not offended by the vile language, I actually find it kind of refreshing. She’s not wrong about it being a cult of pedophiles and that the public needs to wake the fuck up before more damage is done. I see no reason to sugarcoat the factual reality that these men are predators.

Edit: Those saying she’s mentally ill, I don’t necessarily think so. I’m bipolar. I’ve been manic. Mania or psychosis is a lot more disjointed than this. It’s not a beautifully written academic paper but her points relate to each other. Someone in the thread said this is the rage talking and I concur. This is someone who’s reached their boiling point. As someone who doesn’t always remain calm and collected, I can sympathize.

I wouldn't say mentally ill, but I definitely saw a lot of trauma. What she's been put through I can't imagine.

[–] mathlover 3 points Edited

Two sayings come to mind. The old time folksy "if you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas". And Nietzsche's warning "Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” The point being that you become what you are obssessed with and spend every waking moment with.

If Lily Cade has had nothing else in her life, for many years, other than making rapey violent porn of the sort that arouses men who larp as lesbians, she has become just like those rapey violent men. Her unhinged rant was learned from the diseased heart and soul of every male "trans".

This is addressing the public call to violence - that is unhinged. She is spot on, though, about the savage horror that is the TCult and its agenda.

This is... beyond Idiotic. They say these things about us all day. Fallon Fox is out there LITERALLY hating women so much that he beats them up and wanks himself off on Twitter afterwards. Women have actually been murdered and raped by trans women. But oh! No! Words are greater violence than violence! The penises suddenly care about death wishes when it's the evil lesbians doing it!!

[–] SakuraBlossoms 17 points Edited

With how much TIMs threaten to rape and kill women who don't roll over and offer their full-fledged support for men's rights, who cares if one person does the same to them? It's funny they'll cry about this but be enraged at any woman who tries to speak up and share how she personally faced threats and intimidation for expressing concerns for her own safety or for refusing to have sex with a man. They can't say the legions of TIMs threatening feminists are just outliers but then act like one woman represents all women. "Kill all TERFs" isn't exactly a rare stance among TRAs. It shouldn't be surprising that one person out of the tons who have faced these threats could get fed up and fire back. Obviously she's wrong, but once all the TIMs making threats are cancelled and banished, I'll worry about Lily Cade.

I'm unspeakably disappointed about this on so many fronts. Here we are saying, "none of us want them dead, no one wishes that, we just disagree that transwomen are women, please listen to us", and what does Lily do???

We're in this situation where we're stuck feeling this way because of the impossible double standard imposed on us. We're supposed to somehow stop every single violent person from aligning with us because if even one does we're all apparently called into question. Yet there are so many extremely unhinged and violent TRAs and somehow none of that undermines the legitimacy of their movement? Oh yeah, because it's transphobic to even acknowledge that one TIM could ever possibly do anything wrong, let alone consider how they run a movement where threats of violence against women are commonplace and rarely condemned. But we don't have to play their game and fold to their double standard. We'll somehow magically shut down the one violent person who has agreed with some of our stances once the TRAs manage to stop any of their thousands, or even attempt to.

Yes, thank you. We certainly accept that men are human and that where there are men there are always going to be outliers. But we can't accept that women are human and that where there are women there are always going to be outliers?

This doesn't just apply to radfems. No matter what a woman does, there are far too many people who will proceed to draw conclusions about all women on that basis. (Think: "but women ... too!" no matter how rare ... is among women v. men.) We need to break down that tendency a lot more urgently than we need to try to be collectively perfect for the purpose of indulging patriarchal expectations of collective female perfection.

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