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I'm quite disappointed to see women here who are supposedly "gender critical" dismiss this woman so readily when it came to her "obviously unhinged " blogs like are you serious?? You're embarrassing and this is part of the reason it's getting increasingly hard to call myself GC. She was being attacked even by the ones who proudly call themselves TERFs you'd think they'd understand her a bit, but all these labels apparently mean we're pacifist and throw other women under the bus when it's bad optics. She is still a woman who is standing up to this ideology her own way, who has been abused herself but I guess it doesn't matter because "she makes us look bad" incredible. Her writing style is powerful and her rage is what's needed and being angry and reading women like her being rightfully angry as well is what made me see this ideology for what it is and because I felt that rage myself as should all of us. I just hate the absolute lack of female solidarity when it's inconvenient, like not even trying to understand her perspective just immediately villainizing her so we could be perceived as "the good ones". I guess im just disillusioned by how quickly these GCs were to paint her as this violent monster & compare her to TRAS like wtf?? also calling her mentally unstable, schizophrenic …and these are supposed to be feminists the fucking irony

Btw I'm not even gonna delve into her sexual assaults which she apologized and took full responsibility for, and the whole porn industry that she took part in as I obviously condemn it

I'm quite disappointed to see women here who are supposedly "gender critical" dismiss this woman so readily when it came to her "obviously unhinged " blogs like are you serious?? You're embarrassing and this is part of the reason it's getting increasingly hard to call myself GC. She was being attacked even by the ones who proudly call themselves TERFs you'd think they'd understand her a bit, but all these labels apparently mean we're pacifist and throw other women under the bus when it's bad optics. She is still a woman who is standing up to this ideology her own way, who has been abused herself but I guess it doesn't matter because "she makes us look bad" incredible. Her writing style is powerful and her rage is what's needed and being angry and reading women like her being rightfully angry as well is what made me see this ideology for what it is and because I felt that rage myself as should all of us. I just hate the absolute lack of female solidarity when it's inconvenient, like not even trying to understand her perspective just immediately villainizing her so we could be perceived as "the good ones". I guess im just disillusioned by how quickly these GCs were to paint her as this violent monster & compare her to TRAS like wtf?? also calling her mentally unstable, schizophrenic …and these are supposed to be feminists the fucking irony Btw I'm not even gonna delve into her sexual assaults which she apologized and took full responsibility for, and the whole porn industry that she took part in as I obviously condemn it

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[–] BlackCirce 🔮🐖🐖🐖 30 points

She’s a lesbian, a proudly prostituted woman, a woman who is fully woman identified. Very few feminists or women are going to listen to her or want to be associated with her. I don’t know what she did in the sex trade that got her canceled, but I will assume she pimped/raped other women, so she’s a pariah. Suggesting women or anybody use physical means to protect women’s interests puts her outside the circle of female political innocence.

The funny thing is she never asked for approval from feminists or other women, but women are so accustomed to the idea of deeming which of us are acceptable, they are withdrawing approval she never had or asked for. She admits she’s a monster, she’s bad and she’s an outsider, and women are rushing forward to disown a woman who they never claimed to begin with. The issue of Lily Cade has always been sanitized or avoided in discussions of the cotton ceiling, because she doesn’t fit any easy narrative about women’s politics. She’s the Julia we can all point at and say “do it to her!”

Many gender critical women are putting stock in appearing rational, reasonable, nonviolent and passive as a political strategy. The idea is the state and society will side with women speaking calmly and nicely in a specific accent against men who are screaming sexualized threats. Sidelining women who are truly angry and use vulgar language is part and parcel of the strategy.

As for radical/cultural feminists, lesbian separatists, misandrists and the like, the male focused and male led gender critical movement has made their use of us and our theories, protests, research, interpersonal support, money and personal pain. They’re done with us. They now have the clout they need to claim leadership and primacy in the movement and marginalize us as activists. Men have taken control of “gender critical” just like they took control of social justice oriented feminist spaces in the 2000-2010s. It happens every time and will continue to happen until women take the principle of separatism seriously. And its not too late to do that. Women only political spaces are popping up in secret again in response to the male and male-identified invasion of gender critical.

You do not need the gender critical label if you are a radical lesbian yourself or a radical feminist, because those movements are based on gender criticism and incorporate criticism of transsexualism. There is no “gender critical” without us.

I wholeheartedly agree with everything you've said. Thank you for commenting people like you restore my faith in these spaces honestly.