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I'm quite disappointed to see women here who are supposedly "gender critical" dismiss this woman so readily when it came to her "obviously unhinged " blogs like are you serious?? You're embarrassing and this is part of the reason it's getting increasingly hard to call myself GC. She was being attacked even by the ones who proudly call themselves TERFs you'd think they'd understand her a bit, but all these labels apparently mean we're pacifist and throw other women under the bus when it's bad optics. She is still a woman who is standing up to this ideology her own way, who has been abused herself but I guess it doesn't matter because "she makes us look bad" incredible. Her writing style is powerful and her rage is what's needed and being angry and reading women like her being rightfully angry as well is what made me see this ideology for what it is and because I felt that rage myself as should all of us. I just hate the absolute lack of female solidarity when it's inconvenient, like not even trying to understand her perspective just immediately villainizing her so we could be perceived as "the good ones". I guess im just disillusioned by how quickly these GCs were to paint her as this violent monster & compare her to TRAS like wtf?? also calling her mentally unstable, schizophrenic …and these are supposed to be feminists the fucking irony

Btw I'm not even gonna delve into her sexual assaults which she apologized and took full responsibility for, and the whole porn industry that she took part in as I obviously condemn it

I'm quite disappointed to see women here who are supposedly "gender critical" dismiss this woman so readily when it came to her "obviously unhinged " blogs like are you serious?? You're embarrassing and this is part of the reason it's getting increasingly hard to call myself GC. She was being attacked even by the ones who proudly call themselves TERFs you'd think they'd understand her a bit, but all these labels apparently mean we're pacifist and throw other women under the bus when it's bad optics. She is still a woman who is standing up to this ideology her own way, who has been abused herself but I guess it doesn't matter because "she makes us look bad" incredible. Her writing style is powerful and her rage is what's needed and being angry and reading women like her being rightfully angry as well is what made me see this ideology for what it is and because I felt that rage myself as should all of us. I just hate the absolute lack of female solidarity when it's inconvenient, like not even trying to understand her perspective just immediately villainizing her so we could be perceived as "the good ones". I guess im just disillusioned by how quickly these GCs were to paint her as this violent monster & compare her to TRAS like wtf?? also calling her mentally unstable, schizophrenic …and these are supposed to be feminists the fucking irony Btw I'm not even gonna delve into her sexual assaults which she apologized and took full responsibility for, and the whole porn industry that she took part in as I obviously condemn it

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I found her writing "unhinged" specifically due to her calls for violence, not the level of her anger. I take moral issue with her lynching statements, and she absolutely does NOT represent me as a GC person whatsoever. And yes, the TRAs claimed for years that GCrs/TERFS want them dead, well now they got their evidence so yeah. this was a very poor move on her part and set us back. We had just gotten a lot of folks' attention with the BBC article and she shat all over it and now everyone will just remember that woman who said we should lynch TIMs. I mean come on. Everyone here is angry, I doubt anyone has any issues with her being angry as well. Also, her having suffered from trauma and abuse does not give her or anyone else a pass to advocate for violence, full stop.

It only 'sets us back' if we let it, though. She is not associated with us at all. My frustration is acting like we are supposed to just 'allow' this to set us back. Who gives a shit what the TRAs do or say? We must do as Helen Joyce said and go around them. TRAs are a lost cause and the best thing is to totally ignore them.

Oh i don't care at all about how TRAs feel about her and I agree they are already a lost cause. My concern is the average unaffiliated person who hasn't really been exposed to GC ideas. They read the BBC article, it starts to turn some cogs in their head AND THEN they stumble across the Cade blog through that connection, and they are immediately repulsed by the violent rhetoric. Cade could literally be the first "TERF" an unaffiliated person could interact with online and that's a fucking shame because that's not who we are or what we're about.

It really doesn't matter though. I don't think it should matter this much. My frustration is due to the hypocrisy and double standards. TRAs have much worse optics, all it takes it looking at KF or terfisaslur or womenarehuman. This batle is against a huge lobby that has tons of money and can buy themselves 'good optics' in the mainstream press. We've never been allowed to 'look good'. I don't have in in me to allow them to let me feel upset about this. Every inch of progress we make they will ALWAYS try to do something, or use someting, to set it back. Just look at Keira Bell's win and how suddenly out of nowhere Ellen Page became Elliot Page that same day. Our good news is always short lived in this fight. We can't let it matter too much.