Lesbian is manipulated into having sex with a man and feels "like a failure" for not enjoying it.

[–] Veneficca 138 points

Remember when the line was "and transwomen are so dysphoric about their penis you won't even know it's there! They won't try to fuck you with it, they hate that part of themselves!" Such horseshit, their goal was always to penetrate lesbians.

[–] endeverywhere [OP] 53 points

Wow, I forgot that was a thing. Its interesting just how different trans people were 10 years ago. They desperately wanted to pass and blend in as women. They actually didn't always use their genitalia during sex. They didn't make all these insane demands and try to re-write biology.

Goes to show how much the AGP lifestyle has taken over the trans community, because all of these points and many others are polar opposite.

[–] vulvapeople 52 points

They've always been like this. There are examples of TIMs harassing lesbians as far back as the '70s.

[–] Julie92845 6 points

Maybe some, but I definitely remember when it wasn't like this.

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[–] Julie92845 17 points

I too remember when trans people hated their genitalia. How did we move from that to "women have penises"?

[–] ElectricBlue 12 points

I had a textbook TIM as the LGBT counsellor at my college in 2010. He was the usual stuff, ex-military, sending pictures of himself to the girls at college, once gave one of them a bullet vibrator 😬

The landscape has definitely changed, but I think these people were always there but have been emboldened.

[–] meranii 29 points

It was always a lie, I feel like they just said that at a time when they knew people would feel sorry for them and it would lead to more TiM-acceptance in women's spaces.

Many TiMs (like men in general, obviously) absolutely get off on talking about their dicks, so even if they said "I'm so ashamed of my little girlpenis uwu~" it was just a way to get women to talk about penis, basically fishing for sexualized attention.

[–] ScissorHand 11 points

"I can chop it off for you for free if you sign this paper which waives your ability to sue me."

[–] hufflepuff-poet wytch babe 97 points

Lesbian feels bad that her body wanted to protect her from straight male predator penetrating her. Goes to a supposedly lesbian sub to get advice on how to perform successful conversion therapy. I'm beyond disgusted and tired of this "movement".

[–] notyourfetish 52 points

Edited

Same. That the other Reddit thread recently posted here so callously handwaved and dismissed what's happening to lesbians, while calling us "privileged" for not liking it, is fucking mind blowing.

Young lesbians are undergoing conversation therapy en masse, are brainwashed into only caring about the feefees of their rapists, and no one gives a shit. Instead, they call us liars, call us slurs, dismiss it as something that doesn't happen much so it doesn't matter, call us "privileged" for not wanting men in our spaces, act as if only being attracted to women is a choice, etc, etc.

To say TRAs hate lesbians is a massive understatement.

[–] Future Is Female 18 points

Edited

That the other Reddit thread recently posted here so callously handwaved and dismissed what's happening to lesbians, while calling us "privileged" for not liking it, is fucking mind blowing.

They what?!

I’m not surprised, but it never stops being upsetting.

[–] ArmedButch 7 points

As a young lesbian (16 y.o.), it's astonishing how many gen z lesbians believe in the gender ideology and will fight for it. Whenever I try to reason with them, they hit me with the "educate yourself" line. TIMs have brainwashed this generation of lesbians into accepting dick and nobody cares. I have no words.

[–] chrysthefeminist 2 points

act as if only being attracted to women is a choice

And if it is, it's a choice we have every right to make.

[–] DonKarnage 75 points

...... She wants to know what to do to make the TiM feel better...... She wants to know how to not upset the TiM when she asks him to stop raping her...... My god!

This thing where people are excusing TiMs and their abusive, manipulative behavior and writing it off as "self conscious" "poor baby" "meek little waif," needs to stop already. It just needs to stop now.

I'm physically ill from reading that post.

[–] ElectricBlue 17 points

It's so dreadful. It's like when people pull up those old advice columns from the 1950s that are like "I'm not sure how often I should beat my wife, is twice a week enough?" I can't imagine how awful this era is going to look in retrospect.

[–] DonKarnage 3 points

You're right! It does have that very same sick vibe to it.

[–] endeverywhere [OP] 52 points

Edited

I put this here instead of o/lesbians due to it being more GC-related in regards to the predatory nature of TIMs. However, I can remove it if needed. A user on Reddit originally posted this on TIA but mods deleted, so I thought it should get some more traffic.

Anyway, you can read the post. This feels like conversion therapy. Her body is physically preventing it because she's that unaroused and/ or terrified, yet she continues trying to force it on herself. Its maddening that she's ignoring what her body is telling her and even moreso that she's been convinced this is normal.

I'm not as angry as I should be.. I'm just sad.. The TRAs are manipulating lesbians into having sex with men amongst many other forms of abuse. This poor young woman.. And she feels like SHE'S the problem.. I feel so awful for the lesbians growing up in this generation. They're taught to believe something is wrong with them for not liking penises. They're taught that "transwomen are women" and that they MUST be attracted to them. It's blatant homophobia that anyone who hasn't been manipulated can easily see.

Whether this lesbian is supportive of transwomen or not doesn't change the fact she's trying to have sex with someone who is biologically male and has biologically male genitalia. Things that will not arouse real lesbians.. Her body knows it. And then SHE was the one who felt bad at the end. She blames only herself and calls herself a failure.

I know this is nothing new, but to see someone talk about how her body was physically rejecting this.. I'm just disgusted and sad about it.

edit: I checked the actual thread. The poster said this "It wasn’t my first time having sex. And I have been fingered, as in penetrated with two fingers. We actually did use lube… lots of lube. I liked cuddling with her but I didn’t feel very aroused if I’m being honest. That must have been my problem.

edit2: I spoke with her. I won't leak details from a private conversation, but let's just say she seems very aware and isn't in too deep with the woke kool-aid. This seemed to be an eye-opener for her and made her realize she is only attracted to female sex people. I'm relieved to hear this after seeing the replies on her thread.

I put this here instead of o/lesbians due to it being more GC-related in regards to the predatory nature of TIMs. However, I can remove it if needed. A user on Reddit originally posted this on TIA but mods deleted, so I thought it should get some more traffic. Anyway, you can read the post. This feels like conversion therapy. Her body is physically preventing it because she's that unaroused and/ or terrified, yet she continues trying to force it on herself. Its maddening that she's ignoring what her body is telling her and even moreso that she's been convinced this is normal. I'm not as angry as I should be.. I'm just sad.. The TRAs are manipulating lesbians into having sex with men amongst many other forms of abuse. This poor young woman.. And she feels like SHE'S the problem.. I feel so awful for the lesbians growing up in this generation. They're taught to believe something is wrong with them for not liking penises. They're taught that "transwomen are women" and that they MUST be attracted to them. It's blatant homophobia that anyone who hasn't been manipulated can easily see. Whether this lesbian is supportive of transwomen or not doesn't change the fact she's trying to have sex with someone who is biologically male and has biologically male genitalia. Things that will not arouse real lesbians.. Her body knows it. And then SHE was the one who felt bad at the end. She blames only herself and calls herself a failure. I know this is nothing new, but to see someone talk about how her body was physically rejecting this.. I'm just disgusted and sad about it. --- edit: I checked the actual thread. The poster said this "It wasn’t my first time having sex. And I have been fingered, as in penetrated with two fingers. We actually did use lube… lots of lube. I liked cuddling with her but I didn’t feel very aroused if I’m being honest. That must have been my problem. edit2: I spoke with her. I won't leak details from a private conversation, but let's just say she seems very aware and isn't in too deep with the woke kool-aid. This seemed to be an eye-opener for her and made her realize she is only attracted to female sex people. I'm relieved to hear this after seeing the replies on her thread.

[–] Every-Man-His-Own-Football 24 points

Edited

It's good that you made this post. I saw it as well (via Slatzism twitter account), but ultimately I was so disgusted by how homophobic and rapist this is, I could not find the words to express it.

I did create an archive link though: https://archive.md/a6Lcu
and this reveddit link shows how all the sensible responses had been removed by moderator(s):
https://www.reveddit.com/v/actuallesbians/comments/qmg9j8/feeling_like_a_failure_after_penetrative_sex/

Like this one:

It's your body telling you that you are a lesbian and that you don't do men. You were born this way, never forget it 🏳️‍🌈

This one:

Maybe you just don’t like sex with men

And even this one:

How about focusing on your own experience instead? Don't have sex just to please others. That's just self-destructive and you won't get any medals for it.

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[–] endeverywhere [OP] 12 points

holy shit every single reasonable comment was removed. god I really hate that sub.

[–] SulphuricMirror 8 points

The sub is basically dedicated to "men who wish to or already are raping lesbians", I feel sorry for the few women who still think they have a place there, it's just a rape fetish sub at this point (well, has been for a while, but the males outnumber the fame users on that sub more and more everyday because they ban all the real lesbians).

[–] barnarnas 20 points

They probably deleted it since the subreddit doesn't allow reddit screenshots. TiA is also weirdly attractive to "I'm not like those nasty trenders I'm a Real Transgender" people who want validation 🙄

I agree, this is depressing to read. Letting people who have never interacted with any LGBs in real life dictate community politics was the worst fucking thing to happen :/

[–] notyourfetish 10 points

I agree, this is depressing to read. Letting people who have never interacted with any LGBs in real life dictate community politics was the worst fucking thing to happen :/

Aye.

[–] notyourfetish 18 points

I feel so awful for the lesbians growing up in this generation. They're taught to believe something is wrong with them for not liking penises.

This has been going on since the dawn of time. But yes, it is awful.

[–] endeverywhere [OP] 8 points

i said that at the bottom of my post. i am a lesbian i am very aware lol

[–] Hermione 4 points

Yeah, but now supposedly LGB advocacy organizations are telling them the same thing. Any potential allies are sensored so where are they going to turn to for help? Look at this thread, anyone who could have given her sound support for being a lesbian had their comments removed. There are far less safe lesbian spaces.

[–] Tesserae_Tali 45 points

Ugh, ugh, ugh. Some aspects of female socialization should be the norm for all people of both sexes. Empathy? Good! Cooperation? Also good! But other aspects of female socialization need to be flat-out eradicated, and the inability to say no and the belief that one's own body is a public resource are at the top of the must-go list.

[–] IrishTheFrenchie 23 points

Putting our own needs first is another we need to learn.

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[–] greenbeans 3 points

This is so true! People teach little girls to always be kind and put others first. Kindness is good but equally girls need to be taught that they are not just support humans.

We need to tell them: Boundaries are good! No-one gets to touch you if you don't want! Your thoughts and feelings matter!

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[–] mathlover 38 points

Of course she feels terrible. A man attempted to rape her. If you listen to these men who larp as lesbians, online and in irl, they have all either already coercively (or forcibly) raped a lesbian or would at any opportunity. It is a ubiquitous desire for all of them; you never read or hear any of them raising any objections or acknowledging that trying to have sex with a lesbian is rape. The TCult is a rape cult with lesbians the preferred prey.

[–] endeverywhere [OP] 28 points

Man are extremely obsessed with having sex with lesbians. So obsessed that I wouldn't be surprised if they transitioned specifically to do that.. And look at what we get..

[–] notyourfetish 17 points

The TCult is a rape cult with lesbians the preferred prey.

What a horrifying world we live in.

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[–] PGTips4Lyfe 🐸☕🤏 21 points

OMFG she was raped.

[–] Stealthygal 20 points

cries

[–] MadCow 19 points

He kept trying to get it in when she was in pain and she feels bad? 😪

[–] Rollo 15 points

Edited

A lot of advice in that thread to to dilate or get medical treatment for vaginismus.... the more obvious reason is because she wasn't aroused. She even said so.

If you're reading this, you dont have to learn to like penis. You don't have to date transwomen. Girl you weren't aroused because you're lesbian. Lesbians aren't into TW.

[–] CacaoGudem 5 points

If this post was written by a straight/bi woman having sex with a man, I would have said that too because I personally have had issues with painful sex. Telling this to a lesbian who didn't enjoy sex with a TIM or man is fucking unacceptable.

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