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This was just uploaded on the SVTPlay on demand site today. It's a new documentary from the Swedish investigative Uppdrag Granskning (Mission Investigation) series that also made the Trans Train show. It's called Transbarnen (The Trans Children) and investigate the side effects of puberty blockers.

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video is now available with English subtitles: https://www.svtplay.se/video/33358590/uppdrag-granskning/mission-investigate-trans-children-avsnitt-1

Original video in Swedish: https://www.svtplay.se/video/33313874/uppdrag-granskning/uppdrag-granskning-transbarnen

Summary of some of the highlights:

They talk to the mother of a kid "Leo" who at first seemed to get better after being put on blockers at 11 years old, but then increasingly felt worse and made several suicide attempts.

Leadership at the hospital where Leo was treated (Karolinska) were influenced by the Keira Bell judgment, because it put a spotlight on how weak the scientific evidence was, when they decided to stop giving puberty blockers to those under 16.

Different clinics around Sweden made different decisions regarding their policies around blockers, some still carry on as before, and say they aren't concerned at all about side effects.

There are detransitioners who were treated at Karolinska but that was not mentioned in their decision to stop providing blockers. The journalists find several medical damage reports from detransitioners who were treated there, mainly irreversible voice changes from testosterone.

A trans rights group say they want to shift the conversation from discussing the risks of trans health care to the risk of transphobia. (This was at around 35 minutes in and their speech is in English because it was at an international conference.)

Leo started getting back pain, and spent over four years on blockers. Bone density is supposed to be checked regularly to prevent damage, but was not checked once. After bone density is finally checked, the clinic says there is an abberration in bone density but nothing to worry about. But the results say pronounced osteopenia and that two vertebrae have changed shape. Leo also stopped growing and is considerably shorter than expected. Despite this the blocker treatment continues for three more months and Leo has back, shoulder and hip pain every day.

The mother talks about how she trusted the physician prescribing the blockers (echoing a politician earlier in the show talking about how she trusts health care providers on their judgment of trans health care.)

Only now is Leo's family informed that osteoporosis is an expected side effect of blockers. The clinic itself reports the treating physician for giving misleading information to patients. The clinic say they don't have enough resources to do the necessary bone density follow up checks after putting children on blockers.

The journalists find reports of other children in the same area who suffered serious side effects from blockers, one child who stopped growing taller, one with significant short term weight gain (25kg), one got diagnosed with lowered bone density after only two years on blockers, one child having potential liver damage investigated, one with significantly worsened mental health. In total they were able to document 12 children with side effects or damages serious enough to have been reported.

The psychiatric clinic, which diagnose and refer, and the endocrine clinic, which prescribe puberty blockers, both claim the other has the ultimate responsibility. They also both claim they were not aware of the reports of side effects and damages.

This was just uploaded on the SVTPlay on demand site today. It's a new documentary from the Swedish investigative Uppdrag Granskning (Mission Investigation) series that also made the Trans Train show. It's called Transbarnen (The Trans Children) and investigate the side effects of puberty blockers. edit: video is now available with English subtitles: [https://www.svtplay.se/video/33358590/uppdrag-granskning/mission-investigate-trans-children-avsnitt-1](https://www.svtplay.se/video/33358590/uppdrag-granskning/mission-investigate-trans-children-avsnitt-1) Original video in Swedish: [https://www.svtplay.se/video/33313874/uppdrag-granskning/uppdrag-granskning-transbarnen](https://www.svtplay.se/video/33313874/uppdrag-granskning/uppdrag-granskning-transbarnen) Summary of some of the highlights: They talk to the mother of a kid "Leo" who at first seemed to get better after being put on blockers at 11 years old, but then increasingly felt worse and made several suicide attempts. Leadership at the hospital where Leo was treated (Karolinska) were influenced by the Keira Bell judgment, because it put a spotlight on how weak the scientific evidence was, when they decided to stop giving puberty blockers to those under 16. Different clinics around Sweden made different decisions regarding their policies around blockers, some still carry on as before, and say they aren't concerned at all about side effects. There are detransitioners who were treated at Karolinska but that was not mentioned in their decision to stop providing blockers. The journalists find several medical damage reports from detransitioners who were treated there, mainly irreversible voice changes from testosterone. A trans rights group say they want to shift the conversation from discussing the risks of trans health care to the risk of transphobia. (This was at around 35 minutes in and their speech is in English because it was at an international conference.) Leo started getting back pain, and spent over four years on blockers. Bone density is supposed to be checked regularly to prevent damage, but was not checked once. After bone density is finally checked, the clinic says there is an abberration in bone density but nothing to worry about. But the results say pronounced osteopenia and that two vertebrae have changed shape. Leo also stopped growing and is considerably shorter than expected. Despite this the blocker treatment continues for three more months and Leo has back, shoulder and hip pain every day. The mother talks about how she trusted the physician prescribing the blockers (echoing a politician earlier in the show talking about how she trusts health care providers on their judgment of trans health care.) Only now is Leo's family informed that osteoporosis is an expected side effect of blockers. The clinic itself reports the treating physician for giving misleading information to patients. The clinic say they don't have enough resources to do the necessary bone density follow up checks after putting children on blockers. The journalists find reports of other children in the same area who suffered serious side effects from blockers, one child who stopped growing taller, one with significant short term weight gain (25kg), one got diagnosed with lowered bone density after only two years on blockers, one child having potential liver damage investigated, one with significantly worsened mental health. In total they were able to document 12 children with side effects or damages serious enough to have been reported. The psychiatric clinic, which diagnose and refer, and the endocrine clinic, which prescribe puberty blockers, both claim the other has the ultimate responsibility. They also both claim they were not aware of the reports of side effects and damages.

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It really seems like Sweden is backpedaling on the whole trans stuff quickly, in no small part due to the first documentary afaik. Excited to watch it later with translation

Oh god these poor kids. It's so great that the conversation in Europe has started to shift around healthcare for GNC children. In the US (at least outwardly) there's still such a taboo around it. But it does seem to be the thing that people will actually hear a bit of sense about in private. My sister works at a preschool and she has two "trans" kids in her class, and she totally thinks that's fine and dandy but even she said she would be horrified if their parents tried to treat them medically, and that children can't consent to that sort of thing. I doubt she'd ever be able to say that in a staff meeting though...

[–] hufflepuff-poet wytch babe 27 points

Preschool?!?!? I'm an elementary teacher and we have a handful of "trans kids". Meeting them helped peak me, when I had to think about the logical conclusion of what happens if we support "tran's kids and their journeys" which end in sterilization and amputation of healthy organs. "Trans preschoolers" just makes me wanna cry 😢

I'm not sure you are actually right about Europe - even though I wish you were. The new German coalition wants to implement Self-ID laws and have the national health insurance pay for SRS. The country I am from usually copies Germany on everything, so it's just a matter of time before we get the same here too.

To me it feels like the different European countries aren't really learning from each other. Maybe some of the early adopters of the gender woo are now starting to push the breaks, but in other countries it's only just starting, and they are willfully ignoring what happened with their neighbours.

Thanks for posting this, OP. Can't wait for the English subtitles.

But I am confused about one thing: You say Leo was treated at the Karolinksa, which is one of the most esteemed medical institutions in the world. The Karolinska has the responsibility for deciding who gets the Nobel Prize in Medicine. The Karolinska is also doing the long-term research into the impact of trans hormone treatments on adults that has shown that TIMs on T suppression and exogenous estrogen lose very little muscle mass and strength. The Karolinska is reputed to be top-notch.

So how can it be that the very same Karolinska has a clinic and physician(s) capable of misinforming Leo and her family to the degree described? And how can it be possible that

The clinic say they don't have enough resources to do the necessary bone density follow up checks after putting children on blockers.

?????

Also, the 12 kids put on blockers who suffered the negative unwanted effects - does the special state their sex?

The psychiatric clinic, which diagnose and refer, and the endocrine clinic, which prescribe puberty blockers, both claim the other has the ultimate responsibility. They also both claim they were not aware of the reports of side effects and damages.

These clinics are both at the Karolinska? How could all these clinicians not be aware of the reports of the negative impact of these drugs when tons of information on how toxic GnRH agonists are is easily available to anyone with access to the internet?

The extent of this medical scandal boggles the mind, as does the incompetence and cavalier attitude of so many medical professionals involved in it.

[–] LillaMy [OP] 13 points Edited

Like others have already pointed out, Karolinska were involved in this scandal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_Macchiarini

They do some excellent research, but they also have a history of ethically questionable experimental procedures.

And yes, one journalist spoke on the phone to someone at the endocrine clinic who said that lack of resources was the reason they had not done bone density follow ups. From previous media coverage, this seems to be something gender clinics here routinely say to deflect criticism and at the same time appeal for more funds. Two birds one stone. Not a very good look in this particular case though.

Not 100% sure about the structure of the different clinics, but I think the psychiatric clinic is under BUP (child psychiatry) which is entirely separate and not related to Karolinska https://www.bup.se/hitta-mottagning/bup-forsknings--och-utvecklingscentrum/mottagningen-for-konsinkongruens-och-konsdysfori-kid/ While the endocrinological clinic is (or was? I can't find a website for them, just a private facebook post that says they shut down) at the Astrid Lindgren childrens hospital which is a part of Karolinska. https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrid_Lindgrens_barnsjukhus

And representatives for those clinics said that they weren't aware of the specific reports of side effects that had been made with regards to THEIR OWN patients. Really messy and I'm not 100% sure I got it right cause it's so insane.

Yeah, it seems like Karolinska isn't just one unit of experts working together. Even if they are different clinics, they should have reasonable good communication. I don't think they are bad people, but the discordance between their research and their practice is very messy. Then there's politics involved. All in all, parents shouldn't trust these people blindly and should do their own research.

Thanks for the info.

Sounds like the Karolinska is like any big institution...the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing, lots of things fall through the cracks, and lots of room for incompetents and bad actors to move in.

[–] Ash94 9 points Edited

Karolinska is the same institution that let a surgeon experiment on patients (including a little girl), operating a prosthetic trachea with stem cells on it in the patients because he said it would grow into a fully functioning trachea. Many patients died including that little girl. They let him publish his research and they tried to silence whistle blowers who knew his research was compete bs. They let him do it because they were thirsty for some international recognition and they thought this guy was doing some groundbreaking stuff. I can see how clinicians would buy into the trans bs as well to be seen as progressive and groundbreaking.

edit: the scandal with the surgeon was very recent, like it happened within the last 10 years.

The third series of the podcast Dr Death dealt with this scandal, mainly from the POV of the journalist whom he scammed.

Thanks for reminding me. I thought the name sounded familiar. Shady shit all around.

[–] IDC 6 points

Also, the 12 kids put on blockers who suffered the negative unwanted effects - does the special state their sex?

Five of them are confirmed to be girls (four detransitioners and Leo). The sex is not mentioned for the other 8 cases (it’s 13 cases in total).

Source (even though only a few people here will be able to read it).

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37311038

It seems that maybe this is a habit of the Karolinska Institute -- promoting experimental procedures which gain the Institute a lot of media attention. And, then, later being caught up in not doing their due diligence.

Is "Leo" a FTM or a MTF? Has Leo detransed?

[–] IDC 6 points

Leo is a girl. All the news articles call her “he” and “him” so it looks like she hasn’t detransitioned. But I haven’t watched the documentary yet.