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This is for those in the USA. Have you noticed a trend in prison/police reform of referring to sexual violence as "sexual harm." The mantra I am hearing is that the "state is violent, but people are not, they just create "harm." "People [they mean men, but keep things ambiguous] create harm, not crimes, as there are no criminals".

The level accommodation for male predation in these "reform" circles is unsettling and they openly mock feminist as creating the "carceral state" in the USA even though few men go to jail/prison for rape or sex crimes. There is like a 1% conviction rate for rape in the USA. American feminist are NOT the cause of mass incarceration in the USA.

This is for those in the USA. Have you noticed a trend in prison/police reform of referring to sexual violence as "sexual harm." The mantra I am hearing is that the "state is violent, but people are not, they just create "harm." "People [they mean men, but keep things ambiguous] create harm, not crimes, as there are no criminals". The level accommodation for male predation in these "reform" circles is unsettling and they openly mock feminist as creating the "carceral state" in the USA even though few men go to jail/prison for rape or sex crimes. There is like a 1% conviction rate for rape in the USA. American feminist are NOT the cause of mass incarceration in the USA.

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[–] BlackCirce 🔮🐖🐖🐖 32 points

Yes this has been going on a while. We have a problem with prisons and its very serious, and feminists are a convenient scapegoat because feminists are women and thus feminism is a political movement of mothering everyone. Women want to believe in an alternative to power, and police / prison abolition fills that need. In reality every rapist in prison needs to stay there because if they managed to be arrested, tried, convicted and sentenced to prison for more than 2 months, they must have done something so unspeakably and unambiguously brutal that it couldn’t be twisted by a defense attorney as a misunderstanding. When it comes to domestic violence, rape, sexual assault and sexual harassment women are already living police / prison abolition. It can only get worse for women.

Unless Angela Davis plans to come down here with an arsenal and personally protect me from the male rapists currently locked up in the state pen, she can keep her theory.

Truth is, these pro-reform DAs don’t give a shit about women, children, etc. What happened in Waukesha was the result of lax bail laws. Our discussion of purportedly non-violent crimes include some serious gateway crimes.

I still can't believe he was let go with only $1000 bail. What a joke. Here in CA they are doing away with bail. I was so stupid, I voted for it. I thought that meant that they would keep violent criminals behind bars, and only let non-violent offenders out w/o bail. Ha. The opposite has happened, of course.

[–] BlackCirce 🔮🐖🐖🐖 10 points

He previously tried to kill a woman with a car. Legislators need to be serious about what is violence and what is non-violence and go from there

Now they're trying to get more BS terms like "justice involved persons" or such for convicted criminals -- just always messing with the language to make it impossible to talk about reality. It's so Newspeak.

When gang rape became "grooming" and child rapists became "minor attracted persons" and we have headlines saying "an SUV crashed into a parade in Waukesha" -- yeah, some rogue self-driving car?

Many women here are probably too young to remember when politically correct rebranding started in the 90s and waiters and waitresses became "servers" etc. -- comedians were having a field day making up more and more ridiculous things. "He's not my dog! He's a Canine-American!"

I remember making my friend laugh when "colored people" became "people of color" -- I said "so, felons of conviction?"

Funny to me that the same people who want "Terfs" to be gang raped and burnt alive then try to lecture us on being "nice" with language.

Everything is Trauma now too except violence against women.

The Waukesha headlines were unbelievable. I thought some dude on Fentanyl passed out at the wheel or something.

[–] heartwitch 2 points Edited

I do understand why the headlines were neutral about it, because there was so little information available. This is at least the third time I've read about a car plowing into a group of people unexpectedly. Once it was an elderly man who had a medical episode and lost control of the car. Once it was a terrorist. And now this, a criminal on the run. In no case did journalists know the details immediately after it happened. And only in the terrorism case was it evident that killing people was the aim.

Since covid there have been several incidents of cars plowing into outdoor restaurant areas that were set up in parking lots, all of them were accidents, like putting the car in gear instead of reverse, or mistaking the accelerator for the brake.

I joined the r/fuckcars subreddit and its been illuminating. People don't routinely drive cars into businesses in other places because their shopping/cafe areas are designed differently.

None of that really has anything to do with Waukesha, I think it will come out that he ran them over on purpose for some reason.

I’ll add that once you’re convicted of a crime you are, indeed, a criminal. You can also engage in criminal conduct. I see in my high school students this bizarre reticence toward condemning actions.

They like "harm" because it's vague and it lets them put a politically-inconvenient tweet on the same level as a violent assault. If a woman writes a book they don't like, they can't say "she committed a crime", because she didn't. But they can say "she reinforces a harmful narrative". Imo they're just complaining that they can't beat women into silence without legal repercussions.

I'm reminded of that bit from George Carlin on political correctness, and how it was warping the english language more and more in an effort to be nice. ("rape victims will be described as 'unwilling sperm recipients'" or something to that effect) I hate this. The world is so focused on trying to sound kind and inclusive that they're actually causing real harm by erasing the meaning and severity of words.

I'm very annoyed with the ongoing distorting of language to soften it. Nothing can be the punchy truth of the matter, you've got to sand the edges off brutality to make it palpable, as if such harsh words were ever meant to sit comfortably in your mouth alongside words such as 'the'. It's all vague, nebulous, abstract, like the material world can be made immaterial and thus less harmful just because you speak it so.

I haven't heard it before, but I'm not surprised.

People who want to abolish jails and the concept of crime and criminality are out of their fucking minds.

That's why when major Newspapers in 2015, started publishing "think pieces," [instigated by the Gender Lobby] about using They/Them pronouns when talking about individuals in story. By using they/them, you conveniently erase Men's violence against women and girls within Gender Neutral terms.

Same thing with this. I don't understand, this constant rush to constantly change language, the vast vast majority has agreed to use.

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