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The quote tweets to JKR's latest message thread are flooded with this.

"How can it be doxxing when your house is literally on wikipedia"

"I can google your house. It's a tourist site. Stop playing the victim."

"This isn't doxxing and they were just standing there. I see nothing wrong with their signs. JKR being transphobic again"

"Other people have taken photos in front of her house before as part of a tour. Is that doxxing too?"

Like... do they not understand intent? Do they not understand that those activists knew exactly what they were doing by showing up with those signs directly outside her house and THEN going out of their way to show the address on twitter? Are they being deliberately obtuse?

"Oh no guys I doxxed the white house address, this is where Joe Biden works"

What was the purpose of those trans activists taking that photo and posting it? They certainly weren't her fans. I doubt they were on a tour ride through the area. They very deliberately searched up her address and went over to picket / protest outside it (the slogans they hold up clearly demonstrate that they feel JKR is anti-trans, even when she has literally said she stands with them), and then shared said address online so anyone seeing it would then perhaps be encouraged to do something similar.

This wasn't an innocent photo session or a harmless selfie. This was deliberately sending a message with the intention to intimidate or harass.

If anyone can explain how that photo was at all completely innocent or harmless, please fucking do.

And of course every tweet has to also call her a b!tch, c#nt, terf, do your research, demonstrating exactly how kind and understanding and civil the people in this movement are and why we should be supporting them.

The quote tweets to JKR's latest message thread are flooded with this. "How can it be doxxing when your house is literally on wikipedia" "I can google your house. It's a tourist site. Stop playing the victim." "This isn't doxxing and they were just standing there. I see nothing wrong with their signs. JKR being transphobic again" "Other people have taken photos in front of her house before as part of a tour. Is that doxxing too?" Like... do they not understand intent? Do they not understand that those activists knew exactly what they were doing by showing up with those signs directly outside her house and THEN going out of their way to show the address on twitter? Are they being deliberately obtuse? "Oh no guys I doxxed the white house address, this is where Joe Biden works" What was the purpose of those trans activists taking that photo and posting it? They certainly weren't her fans. I doubt they were on a tour ride through the area. They very deliberately searched up her address and went over to picket / protest outside it (the slogans they hold up clearly demonstrate that they feel JKR is anti-trans, even when she has literally said she stands with them), and then shared said address online so anyone seeing it would then perhaps be encouraged to do something similar. This wasn't an innocent photo session or a harmless selfie. This was deliberately sending a message with the intention to intimidate or harass. If anyone can explain how that photo was at all completely innocent or harmless, please fucking do. And of course every tweet has to also call her a b!tch, c#nt, terf, do your research, demonstrating exactly how kind and understanding and civil the people in this movement are and why we should be supporting them.

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They didn’t stand in front of her remote castle, which is on Wikipedia.

They stood outside her family home in the outskirts of Edinburgh, which is NOT on Wikipedia, because it’s a house on a regular street with extremely tall hedges, and is not a tourist destination.

[–] nobitary Brainoeba 29 points

Yeah. When I wanted to send her a thank you letter, I couldn't find her home address online. All fan mail goes through her place of work. The claims anyone can find out her address are lies. If it were so, there would have been pickets and threats in the past as well.

It’s the difference between standing in front of the White House and President Biden’s private family home.

Also, an aerial photo giving a bird's eye view of a house/building at some distance from above is totally different to a photo taken on the ground showing a close-up of the front entrance as it appears from the street/sidewalk and which has the street address on it.

I also hate the argument that its appropriate to protest in front of someone's house where THEIR FAMILY LIVES.

A bunch of wannabe "activists" pulled the same shit at Tucker Carlson's house. Carlson wasn't home. But his terrified wife and minor children were. And the asshole "protestors" still defended it because protesting a dumbass TV pundit by harassing his wife and kids will get him to change his mind.....somehow?

Speaking of changing minds, what did those TRAs hope to gain by protesting on Rowling's lawn? Did they think harassing her at her house while dressed up as a Dollar Store Pennywise would make her see the light and support males in women's spaces? The ONLY reason to do something like this is to terrorize a person into silence (and send a message to others that they will be harassed and threatened if they speak out)

I'm 100% against any harassment like this. I don't like Tucker Carlson, and it's not about him. It's about people's freedom to live their private lives with their FAMILIES without threats, doxxing, or violence.

I was also pissed when republicans were run out of restaurants for this reason. Same with Kristen Sinema in the bathroom. It's WRONG and it's not how democracies work.

TRAs operate a lot like Scientologists do when someone leaves or speaks out against the cult -- they declare you 'fair game' and then from then on anything goes when it comes your harrassment, intimidation, and outright terrorisation.

Activists 'just stand' outside abortion clinics. Its harassment.

This.

This is why I'm against any and ALL personal harassment in the streets. Eventually, someone will harass someone or someplace YOU care about. If you have any moral integrity, your stance won't change based on the subject of that harassment.

Want to protest Tucker Carlson outside Fox News? I'm 100% okay with that.

Want to go to his private residence and scare the shit out of his wife, kids, and neighbors? Nope.

Newsflash: most addresses are public record. You can Google where just about anybody lives. Despite this, we still understand what doxxing is and why it's a bad thing.

Don't post somebody's address for the purposes of threat and intimidation. It's not fucking hard.

I know, it's like they forgot google maps exist. And back in the day, the yellow pages existed. But people could and can still be subjected to stalking and harrassment campaigns, all the same!!!

But back in the day, people could elect to keep their phone numbers unlisted so they would not appear in any phone directory (which, BTW, was called the white pages - the yellow pages were solely for businesses that paid extra money to be listed there. In some places, the white and yellow pages were in the same book, but in others they came in two separate volumes).

Moreover, even if you had your home phone number listed in the white pages, you could elect to keep your address unlisted. Lots of ordinary women chose this option back in the day. Our phone numbers were in the phone directory so people could easily find out where/how to call us, but our addresses were not revealed so that people couldn't just show up at our doors.

I wonder how these people would react if three known 'TERFs' suddenly stood in their backyard.

[–] VestalVirgin 22 points Edited

They would beat them up or even murder them, then justify it to the police with feeling threatened. I bet you. Even if the protesters were little old ladies over 80.

Not that it would ever happen. Radical feminism is the most peaceful movement I have ever seen. Feminists would never threaten TRAs at the TRAs own homes. It is only ever the other way round.

This whining on about how it is totally not stalking to stand around on someone's lawn only applies to when it is them doing it to Rowling. They would quickly call it the most horrible violence if a known radfem even just accidentally crossed their front lawn to get someplace else.

More importantly: if someone claiming to be a radical feminist DID show up at a TRA’s actual home and took a selfie showing their address, none of us would hesitate to come out against it. We wouldn’t try to say it’s justified because it was easy to find online, or because of their activism or whatever.

And on Reddit I did actually see some comments claiming to be from trans people who were very against JKR being doxed like this. But there were more defending it with this castle bullshit or saying she deserved it.

At this point almost everybody's address is available online. I wonder if they'd feel the same way if a gender critical activist did the same thing outside a trans person's house.

I know I was gonna comment I’ve look up my own house online before doesn’t mean I would want someone posting it.

Maybe it’s because I’m not a lunatic but I’ve never even thought to look up someone’s address. Like even if it is online somewhere, there is literally no good reason as to why someone should look up another persons address, especially that of a total stranger.

What was the purpose of those trans activists taking that photo and posting it?

The purpose was to show regular women, you and me, that they'll show up and post YOUR address online, and we don't have the benefit of an 8 ft. wall around our houses.

It's to shut up all of US.

I also feel like they missed the main part of her tweet, that they’re doing it to many other women who aren’t as safe and privileged as she is.

Aside from all that, it is not actually true. The house she lives in is an historic landmark, and is featured on websites and tours, but not because it’s Rowling’s house, and I could find nothing currently online that identifies it as her home. If some fan site featured it, I very much doubt it was with her permission or knowledge.

You can look up a lot of peoples addresses on the electoral roll or in the phone book too. Does that mean we’re free to take a picture of their house and post their address all over the internet so some nutters can come stalk them too? After all they are “internet famous” so are public property right?

Personally I don’t subscribe to the famous = public property thing. I’ve seen famous people in general situations and just left them alone. If it’s a public appearance that’s a different matter, but out with family/friends, out doing shopping that is their private time. It is just a job after all, I doubt Jennifer would want to be chased down the street by Brenda and her mates screaming “can I have a Big Mac meal and a McFlurry please?” when she’s not in work.

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