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If the transgender movement had drawn clear lines in the sand, that they were not willing to cross:

  • no one is forced to use certain pronouns for transgendered people
  • the words men and women clearly assigned based on sex
  • no medicalisation whatsoever of minors
  • protection of women only spaces/categories (shelters, changing rooms, sports, prisons,...)
  • no changing of sex on legal documents
  • chosing medical transition as a last resort
  • accepting that hetero/homosexuality are clearly linked to sex and not gender (while of course sexual attraction based on gender expression would not be discriminated against either)

While at the same time they would be very actively promoting acceptance of transgender identity in society. Working for protections of trans people, representation of trans people, mental health support, ...

Where would you be on the trans issue then?

I personally would definitely be an active supporter. Particularly because I would see it as a movement that is helpful in weakening gender restrictions, which I would love.

If the transgender movement had drawn clear lines in the sand, that they were not willing to cross: - no one is forced to use certain pronouns for transgendered people - the words men and women clearly assigned based on sex - no medicalisation whatsoever of minors - protection of women only spaces/categories (shelters, changing rooms, sports, prisons,...) - no changing of sex on legal documents - chosing medical transition as a last resort - accepting that hetero/homosexuality are clearly linked to sex and not gender (while of course sexual attraction based on gender expression would not be discriminated against either) While at the same time they would be very actively promoting acceptance of transgender identity in society. Working for protections of trans people, representation of trans people, mental health support, ... **Where would you be on the trans issue then?** I personally would definitely be an active supporter. Particularly because I would see it as a movement that is helpful in weakening gender restrictions, which I would love.

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I'm in the group who just viewed it as a mental illness. Without all the social shortcuts and benefits being trans has now I doubt there would be so many people transing. A relative had a very rich friend who was trans when I was a child, I always just thought the person was weird and very tragic. I always viewed transitioning as the easiest way to alleviate mental issues caused by dysphoria and that if there was a safe way to do this with any other mental disorder it would probably be done. My thoughts now aren't so kind, but I would continue to tolerate them and pity them as people who are forced to wear their mental disability in public. I have never been an active supporter tbh because I don't think supporting mental illness is the same as supporting people with mental illness.

Regarding cross dressing for kinks, I literally don't care. For laughs - well it depends on what the joke is. Drag - no, too misogynistic. Men wearing makeup, skirts, nail varnish, etc - go for it, whatever, I don't really believe there's any power in women gatekeeping oppressive beauty standards.