It’s not a fetish, but also we have this fetish

Testosterone often sexualises feelings of gender euphoria

Ok, by this logic, do TIF get a cargo short fetish after shooting testosterone for a while?

It's so common that it was included in the 1980 DSM-III medical classification of Transvestism: https://i.imgur.com/iADj4Ln.png

Predisposing factors. According to the folklore of individuals with this condition, a "petticoat punishment," the punishment of humiliating a boy by dressing him in the clothes of a girl, is common in the history of individuals who later develop this disorder.

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"which means there is no analogue in trans men because masculinity isnt associated with sexualized submissiveness and objectification? I kind of feel like this theory has some truth to it."

It does, especially since the fetishization mostly happens regarding effeminate gay men. (Yaoi ?)

I remember seeing a Reddit post among us radical feminists where some guy (from a Hispanic country, I think) was talking about how his parents forced him to commence gender transition because he was attracted to other males, despite only tolerating it for a single year. It seemed to have really elicited our sympathies, but from the start I've always been skeptical of the chance that this might have been a TIM pulling our strings. Forced feminization, after all, is a common TIM fetish, and the guy even uploaded an image of himself (with his face obscured) in feminine clothes and a rather provocative posture.

None of them are trying to hide their fetishtistic motivations for calling themselves women, which you typically see in TW who want to distance themselves from AGP. So I’m kind of amazed to see them letting all of this hang out, and I’m wondering if they walked into a trap by confirming everything TERFs have been claiming about them from day 1.

I think a lot of them are deeply delusional or very in denial that their "woman feelings" are basically just twisted perversion. So they pretend their AGP is some kind of valid identity and that they're an oppressed minority (which also shows how homophobic they are, because that's how they view gay people, as sexual deviants or something).

But they're not an oppressed minority. They are just straight men who have destroyed their sexuality with porn. And rather than acknowledge what they've done to themselves, they'd rather live in denial while telling themselves they must have some sort of "identity."

To convince people they have this "identity," they lurk and spy, study feminine women's mannerisms to copy them, and read the things that actual minorities say online, and then they copy us verbatim to convince themselves (not just everyone else) that they really are this poor widdle minority who is in danger constantly, etc.

They are basically mentally unstable, dangerous men.

Testosterone causes sexualized feelings that makes you end up with a fetish. Okay, cool. So what are we supposed to make of trans women who have high levels of testosterone in their systems? When they go into the locker room and all that T starts giving them euphoria boners, are women supposed to just…not care about this? Are we supposed to pretend that this isn’t a fetish when all of y’all are admitting that this exactly what this is? Like, WTF?

That he actually thinks "transitioning" makes the "fetish feelings" stop is insane. If that were true, then why are so many "transwomen" with bottom surgery still harassing the shit out of lesbians?

I've never observed a TIM who transitioned and suddenly decided that lesbians were people and that our sexuality should be respected. Instead, they just continue in the same male mode, demanding sex from women who aren't attracted to them and calling us bigots and killing us when we say no.

Seems like their political and social power must be going to their heads because why else would they just openly admit that most of their transition efforts are informed by a fetish?

It is fair to say that if the broader public catches on, this is not a good look for them, yet they apparently have no problem saying the quiet part out loud anymore. My only conclusion to this is that they are so drunk with power/narcissism (and a sizable pinch of delusion) that they think they can get away with literally anything. And honestly, based on the latest headlines, they are probably making the correct calculation.

"This is my brain trying to make sense of what I was feeling."

oh God. oh God. No, no it wasn't. You were just exposed to pornography way too young and it damaged your brain. It would have damaged your brain at any age because that's what it does, but a tweenager is going to be much more deeply damaged.

And growing up without understanding what women really are like was the nail in the coffin. This is the initial wound, the hole in the male conscience that allows these diseases to creep in and breed. If you don't understand what women are, if you don't see them as equal people, it's not going to bother you to see them objectified and objectify them yourself.

So why don’t we see trans men talking about forced masculinization fetishes?

The distressing part is that there’s an entire subreddit dedicated to a fetish for forcing TIFs into acting like tradwives.

I’ve noticed that whenever someone posts on Reddit and asks if it’s a fetish because they got a boner while wearing women’s clothing, all the TIMs respond by saying it’s just “euphoria.”