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The sheer hypocrisy has always enraged me. They claim that misgendering someone is the worst form of hate speech guaranteed to make them kill themselves (if only. I'd love to kill a rapist with nothing but my words.), yet they consistently misgender anyone who disagrees with them. Obviously, I don't give a shit - it's always really funny when women post TIM selfies and pretend it's them after expressing gender critical views, because the TRAs always say much worse shit than we ever do - but the hypocrisy bugs me. They're particularly vicious when it comes to misgendering detransitioners, who already get enough shit from them. The double standard is infuriating.

The sheer hypocrisy has always enraged me. They claim that misgendering someone is the worst form of hate speech guaranteed to make them kill themselves (if only. I'd love to kill a rapist with nothing but my words.), yet they consistently misgender anyone who disagrees with them. Obviously, I don't give a shit - it's always really funny when women post TIM selfies and pretend it's them after expressing gender critical views, because the TRAs always say much worse shit than we ever do - but the hypocrisy bugs me. They're particularly vicious when it comes to misgendering detransitioners, who already get enough shit from them. The double standard is infuriating.

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[–] BlackCirce 🔮🐖🐖🐖 47 points

Easy: we’re women and they’re men.

I really didn't think society was that misogynist until trans ideology. I was an idiot. My eyes are wide open now. It was obvious before but seeing people I thought were empathetic and smart also jump on this train has really been shocking and now there is no going back to that blessed ignorant time.

I work in IT. Years ago I worked for a new company, worked with a great bunch of people. I used to train to work, one of the guys I worked with, same project, same role (software developer) would get the same train. (100% friends only) One evening after a few drinks, on the train home in the happy drunk stage he told me, he was pissed when I was placed on the project with him because he felt I would slow the project down (because females were crap programmers) and be emotional baggage (basically females start gossip, need endless meetings, cause drama, cry etc). This guy was born same year as me, very liberal but he still felt women should do the typing and answer the phone. So the drunken ‘you’re the best woman I have worked with’ did not make me proud, it shocked me. Because at the end of the day, they still think we don’t match up ; emotionally and intellectually

Any mistake we make are because we are a woman. Any mistakes they make are because reason 1,2,3 etc

Nice.. I'm also a software developer, and though I haven't had anything extremely sexist happen to me at work, there are just a million tiny things that betray what the men I work with think of me.

When I was first hired at my current company (at 25-ish years old), HR (a man, about 20 years older than me) showed me around the office on my first day at work. Later, one of the guys in my team (same age as me) said to him, in front of me, that he was surprised I was a developer - "I thought you were just showing your wife where you work". Thanks.

I really didn't think society was that misogynist until trans ideology. I was an idiot. My eyes are wide open now.

I used to be one of those people who laughed at the idea that patriarchy existed in western countries. The rapid spread of trans ideology was a major factor in me realizing how wrong I was.

This is always the answer. Really hope the question in OP's title was rhetorical because she should know it by now too.

They claim that misgendering someone is the worst form of hate speech guaranteed to make them kill themselves (if only. I'd love to kill a rapist with nothing but my words.)

Same here.

I’ve happened upon this debate before. The typical TRA response is, ‘Because you don’t have gender dysphoria; therefore, it doesn’t hurt you in the same way. It’s punching up! 🥴’

The reason this logic is infuriating is because it contradicts their own ideology, which holds that misgendering anyone, even bad people (including, as you mentioned, rapists and murderers), normalises transphobia and indirectly harms actual trans people. That’s why we’re not allowed to misgender Yaniv, remember? But all of that goes out the window when they want to tell a TERF she looks like a man. Suddenly, misgendering a ‘bad person’/perpetuating a ‘cissexist’ beauty standard is no longer contributing to an overall culture of transphobia.

It’s almost like their obsession with using the ‘correct’ pronouns for rapists, pedophiles, and murderers is not rooted in genuine concern for the trans community, given how quickly that concern dissipates when they’re talking to gender nonconforming TERFs…

Because they want to dehumanise us. We're literally scum to them and thus don't deserve the same rights as 'actual humans'. They consider us worse than rapists and murderers.

Aside from the fact that they condone violence against heretics, they also don't seriously think "misgendering" is violence. It's just about ideological compliance. Calling a heretic by the wrong sex is not "misgendering" to them because they know the difference between that and calling someone by the "wrong" "gender"

Some of them seem to really believe that it's an act of violence to misgender. I've seen twitter exchanges where TRAs have been completely unable to understand women saying they wouldn't care if someone called them sir or he. Add to that the fact that they are all self centred narcissists.

They are violent extremists. They don't even see their own hypocrisy because they are so deep in their cult mind set.

[–] ascendin_lark 2 points Edited

As it’s so ingrained in society for women to look “feminine”, implying that we can be mistaken for males is an attempt to insult us, which is bizarre - they’re the ones who insist on trans women passing.

They spend all their time in an echo chamber where none of the ideology is criticised. Consequently, it’s fine to weaponise misogyny against women if they are TERFs, which tells me that they either do actually think those things about women, or don’t care about misogyny - it’s just that they hide it from women who comply and/or support them. Misgendering us is the first level of it but it usually escalates into belittling parts of our bodies that we are already discriminated against for across the world, especially those of us women that live under conservative governments and brutal regimes (e.g., the Taliban). I would never intentionally undermine trans people’s experiences or be transphobic to get at an individual trans person, but it’s fine to call us bleeders, to make fun of our reproductive systems and health, even when the difficulty we face around them is entirely the result of oppression.

I’ve seen them mock women with endometriosis, a condition that is poorly understood precisely because of men’s historic control over medical research in the west, and call us self-centred for focusing on periods, when women in other countries are literally outcast from their homes whenever they start bleeding, “genital obsessed” as if there aren’t millions of women worldwide suffering with life following FGM.

They never criticise each other’s arguments and to them being trans is the worst form of oppression in the world. So they feel as if they’re always “punching up”. Because institutions defend them, God knows why, they feel it’s right.