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If you are an identical twin... you know that person as well as you know yourself. This person is basically a clone of you. They seriously need to do a twin study. I guarantee it will prove to be entirely cultural.

Vreemd om te zien hoe de transgenderbeweging hier toch ook steeds meer voeten in de aarde weet te krijgen

Is the trans movement gaining ground in specific cities, all across the Netherlands or all across europe, do you think? I'm American but living abroad for now and interested to hear how people understand the movement to be going... it seemed like France was fighting back, I've heard Germany has had a lot of sudden pro-trans movement that hasn't been really noticed, I have no sense of what's happened in the Netherlands, it felt like some of scandinavia was starting to walk things back... But I feel pretty clueless as an English speaker.

I think they have ground mostly in the 'Randstad' cities like Amsterdam, Utrecht, Rotterdam, etc. The rest of my story I DMed to you :)

[–] m0RT_1 2 points Edited

The grooming component of the TRA cult really makes my heart sink.

At the core of all this is just young people trying to figure out how they fit into the world. Instead of being gently supported to find their own path and their own truth, they are actively targeted by others who have no concern for the mental, emotional, and physical damage that will be done. It is heartbreaking.

Wow that has to be so weird to have a twin brother go full TRA and take hormones to mimic a woman. Yikes. You know all those other trans identified men on discord/Reddit told him to cut his family out of his life too. These people are very toxic and try to break up families and replace them with online ‘glitter’ families instead (just like a cult). It’s despicable. May he one day wake up and deprogram before too much permanent damage is done :(

I don't know how feasible this would be, but a twin study on trans-identified people could potentially be fascinating.

Haven't they been made? I tbought i've read something like this and the result was (who would have thought) "since its not both who identify as trans, we cant say its genetical" duh

"since its not both who identify as trans, we cant say its genetical"

This is what interests me. I believe identical twins (and to some degree, fraternal twins) are more likely to be of the same sexual orientation than siblings in the general population.

I don't think identifying as trans is genetic, but it seems highly likely that there's a degree of social contagion to identifying as trans. For example, Jelle Dekker and his brother don't share a gender identity, even though they're twins. But the Wachowskis do share a gender identity and are not twins.

Agreed. Laverne Cox and his twin brother are another example of twins who diverged with the trans path.

It's funny how, I think, being on spectrum technically can land someone further along on the trans or the terfy side of things.

On one side, someone on the spectrum can find it hard to identify with general public, feeling like you're from another planet isn't uncommon. So they're predisposed and eager to hear who they are and more importantly - ache to find a place they'd belong to. They're always welcome to join our homebase - the IT department - but some still got caught in the trans ideology.

On the other side, people on the spectrum are honest to a fault. Facts are facts are facts. Facts can be dismissed with solid arguments and new facts. I'm all for seeing proof that a mammal can change sex but there really is none. And sex differences have been well documented.

I understand, for the sake of peace, we sometimes have to lie. Like if random people ask how are you doing you're supposed to say fine regardless of reality. And I used to use people's preferred pronouns etc because "that's what you're supposed to do". But then Hubbard competed in women's section in the Olympics - which I found objectively unfair. And voicing that made me a terf. And then I finally found out about self ID, women's prisons, puberty blockers, the silencing of the detrans, that AGP is a thing, that MAPs are following the trans blueprint, that people are losing their jobs because of tweets about sex existing.

So we didn't choose the terf life. There's simply not an option to not be a terf anymore.

Like if random people ask how are you doing you're supposed to say fine regardless of reality.

I stopped doing this several years ago. People are often usually startled at first, but frequently respond with something authentic. I recommend trying it.

[–] hmimperialtortie AGP = evil 4 points Edited

I used to say “Shithouse, thanks for asking, how are you?” or “I’m at work, how do you think I am?” in my working years.

I stopped doing this several years ago. People are often usually startled at first, but frequently respond with something authentic. I recommend trying it.

Same! Though I find that I'm more likely to be honest in those kinds of mini-interactions if I actually want to talk to the other person. Being honest opens the doors to a real conversation instead of just the expected performance-type of greeting. So, if I'm in a rush in the hallway I do sometimes still just say, "Good, and you?" because I just need to go pee or something, lol.

Are you involved in the autism community at all? I can barely handle it anymore, due to the amount of constant trans propaganda it permeates.

No. I stay away from most online communites, especially on Discord, precisely because of the constant TQ+ propaganda.

[–] Tq231442 Cervix owner 12 points

Congrats on your self awareness and discipline. Not easy to come by lol

[–] goodyusername Team Terflair 20 points

So many of us are here because we feel like we dodged a bullet.

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