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I've been meaning to write this post for a while now. When I was a mentally ill teenage girl at the beginning of my transition, I was groomed into the cult not directly by interacting with people but indirectly by looking at "success" stories like Buck's. I remember seeing her before after photos, from blonde underwear model to a cowboy, cigar in hand, big muscled arms, so cool. I even watched some of her porn videos and checked out her sex toy cutely named "Buck off", specifically made for TIFs on testosterone with enlarged clitorises. Then years passed and I came across her video about vaginal atrophy on YT that came out in 2019 March. I knew it was a side effect of HRT, that it might cause a bit of dryness and discomfort during sex that can be resolved with lube, but never really heard about more severe effects. Then I learned it can also cause incontinence, susceptibility to diseases like vaginitis or STDs, and even vaginal prolapse. Buck told her internal reproductive organs fused together which almost killed her. Allegedly, locally applied estrogen cream can solve it all and you can go on to live as the man of your dreams. I was shocked and this probably played a part in me deciding to discontinue my medical transition later that year - although it wasn't until 2021 spring that I was fully out of the cult. Since then I've heard multiple detrans women say that Buck's video was the first time they really learned about vaginal atrophy.

Last summer I made a twitter account and followed the accounts that were followed by many GC people, including Buck's, but promptly unfollowed because like all the other "geder critical" transsxuals, she's incoherent and still in the cult. She makes tweet after tweet about how medical transition saved her life (example1, example2, example3, example4). But what does that mean? Would the lack of body hair and beard kill her? Keeping her natural voice would have caused her to perish? Having female pattern fat distribution would have caused her to die? Having a smaller amount of red blood cells would kill her? Not having her breasts amputated would have killed her? Her tits would have literally slither around her neck and suffocate her or what???

I'm unable to understand how "GC" people can pander to such a clown. She says not getting medical transition would have killed her while being a porn star who made a career out of being the "dude with the vagina". Intact breasts, feminine voice, feminine body fat distribution, lack of abundant body hair and beard, aaaaaaaall these things would have killed her. Except her pussy. Having her pussy used on camera apparently doesn't cause dysphoria. How come everything related to the female body except the vagina threatens your life, Buck???

There are multiple problems with her claims that transitioning to a male saved her life: 1. humans don't change sex. You didn't transition into a male, you transitioned into a masculinized woman. Your chest is a female chest with female nipples, your voice is a female voice, your beard is a female beard and so on. 2. if gender dysphoria is a mental illness, it should be treated with therapy, not cosmetic surgeries and extreme body modification. When a human being is so distressed with a healthy body part/trait that causes no physical discomfort that it causes them to be suicidal that person is not sane and hence not capable of making such life-altering decisions as cosmetic surgery. When a woman can only function if she deludes herself into thinking that cross-sex-hormones made her female body male even though it's nothing more than a modified female body no matter how masculine it looks, that person is not sane. 3. there is no such a thing as a life-saving cosmetic surgery/cross-sex hormone therapy.

Just a few months ago she herself admitted that recording the false sex on your papers could be deadly. It was also around this time she made a post about how she uses he/she pronouns, which she seems to have reevaluated since and now threatens to suspend the accounts of gender critical people who correctly sex her, as you can see in my previous post. The thing that most likely brought on her tantrum are Karen Davis' Youtube videos that critisize her and other "GC" TIFs incoherency. Karen also made a post on her YT community 4 days ago with a link to a disturbing footage from the early 2000s where Buck went on the Howard Stern show and publicly humiliated herself by riding a type of sex machine while being ridiculed and misgendered by showrunners.

Buck mostly uses her twitter account to build her Tranpa™ brand. Even though she pretends to be one of the good ones, she continues to advertise her FTM stroker sex toy, making money on women like me, whose genitals were irreversibly modified and damaged by cross-sex hormones.

She's also the ex-wife of the dominatrix who allegedly did forced feminization on one of the Wachowski brothersand later became his partner, possibly setting him down on the path of transgenderism.

There are probably many more disturbing aspects of Buck's activity that would further discredit her in my eyes, but to me, her incoherency about how every female trait on her except her vagina literally threatens her life is more than enough for now, I'm not too keen on researching her porn filled past. I still haven't come around to watch all of Karen's latest videos where she talks about why the tru trans TIFs at Gender Dysphoria Alliance that also engages with kids are problematic, but I definitely will and probably make another post.

I've been meaning to write this post for a while now. When I was a mentally ill teenage girl at the beginning of my transition, I was groomed into the cult not directly by interacting with people but indirectly by looking at "success" stories like Buck's. I remember seeing her before after photos, from blonde underwear model to a cowboy, cigar in hand, big muscled arms, so cool. I even watched some of her porn videos and checked out her sex toy cutely named "Buck off", specifically made for TIFs on testosterone with enlarged clitorises. Then years passed and I came across [her video about vaginal atrophy on YT that came out in 2019 March](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhDnKSru6jE). I knew it was a side effect of HRT, that it *might* cause a bit of dryness and discomfort during sex that can be resolved with lube, but never really heard about more severe effects. Then I learned it can also cause incontinence, susceptibility to diseases like vaginitis or STDs, and even vaginal prolapse. Buck told her internal reproductive organs fused together which almost killed her. Allegedly, locally applied estrogen cream can solve it all and you can go on to live as the man of your dreams. I was shocked and this probably played a part in me deciding to discontinue my medical transition later that year - although it wasn't until 2021 spring that I was fully out of the cult. Since then I've heard multiple detrans women say that Buck's video was the first time they really learned about vaginal atrophy. Last summer I made a twitter account and followed the accounts that were followed by many GC people, including Buck's, but promptly unfollowed because like all the other "geder critical" transsxuals, she's incoherent and still in the cult. She makes tweet after tweet about how medical transition saved her life ([example1](https://twitter.com/BuckAngel/status/1203371142670536704?s=20), [example2](https://twitter.com/BuckAngel/status/1179131506276454400?s=20), [example3](https://www.instagram.com/buckangel/p/BvCh_anF5rV/?utm_source=ig_twitter_share&igshid=kgwues8wgutz), [example4](https://twitter.com/BuckAngel/status/1438242685211459585?s=20)). But what does that mean? Would the lack of body hair and beard kill her? Keeping her natural voice would have caused her to perish? Having female pattern fat distribution would have caused her to die? Having a smaller amount of red blood cells would kill her? Not having her breasts amputated would have killed her? Her tits would have literally slither around her neck and suffocate her or what??? I'm unable to understand how "GC" people can pander to such a clown. She says not getting medical transition would have killed her while being a porn star who made a career out of being the "dude with the vagina". Intact breasts, feminine voice, feminine body fat distribution, lack of abundant body hair and beard, aaaaaaaall these things would have killed her. Except her pussy. Having her pussy used on camera apparently doesn't cause dysphoria. How come everything related to the female body except the vagina threatens your life, Buck??? There are multiple problems with her claims that transitioning to a male saved her life: 1. humans don't change sex. You didn't transition into a male, you transitioned into a masculinized woman. Your chest is a female chest with female nipples, your voice is a female voice, your beard is a female beard and so on. 2. if gender dysphoria is a mental illness, it should be treated with therapy, not cosmetic surgeries and extreme body modification. When a human being is so distressed with a healthy body part/trait that causes no physical discomfort that it causes them to be suicidal that person is not sane and hence not capable of making such life-altering decisions as cosmetic surgery. When a woman can only function if she deludes herself into thinking that cross-sex-hormones made her female body male even though it's nothing more than a modified female body no matter how masculine it looks, that person is not sane. 3. there is no such a thing as a life-saving cosmetic surgery/cross-sex hormone therapy. Just a few months ago she herself admitted that [recording the false sex on your papers could be deadly](https://twitter.com/BuckAngel/status/1436039128605347846?s=20). It was also around this time she made a post about how she uses he/she pronouns, which she seems to have reevaluated since and now threatens to suspend the accounts of gender critical people who correctly sex her, [as you can see in my previous post](https://ovarit.com/o/Radfemmery/59856/the-evolution-of-susan-buck-angel-gender-critical-tru-transtm). The thing that most likely brought on her tantrum are [Karen Davis' Youtube videos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC5YvNo6hj0&t=342s) that critisize her and other "GC" TIFs incoherency. Karen also made a post on her YT community 4 days ago with a link to a disturbing footage from the early 2000s where Buck went on the Howard Stern show and publicly humiliated herself by riding a type of sex machine while being ridiculed and misgendered by showrunners. Buck mostly uses her twitter account to build her [Tranpa™ brand](https://twitter.com/BuckAngel/status/1479643335266471940?s=20). Even though she pretends to be one of the good ones, she [continues to advertise her FTM stroker sex toy](https://twitter.com/BuckAngel/status/1482544760912957441?s=20), making money on women like me, whose genitals were irreversibly modified and damaged by cross-sex hormones. She's also the ex-wife of the [dominatrix who allegedly did forced feminization on one of the Wachowski brothers](https://archive.ph/PYeMs)and later became his partner, possibly setting him down on the path of transgenderism. There are probably many more disturbing aspects of Buck's activity that would further discredit her in my eyes, but to me, her incoherency about how every female trait on her except her vagina literally threatens her life is more than enough for now, I'm not too keen on researching her porn filled past. I still haven't come around to watch all of Karen's latest videos where she talks about why the tru trans TIFs at Gender Dysphoria Alliance that also engages with kids are problematic, but I definitely will and probably make another post.

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[–] Mikkal 74 points Edited

When I was a teenager, and saw Fiona Apple on TV, I saw an dangerously skinny, underweight girl being presented as if she were an beauty ideal.

I hated her. She was clearly unhealthy, but her image put this pressure on other young women to be just as skinny.

Then... I read an interview with her. She talked about being sexually assaulted at 13, and how she connected puberty and breast growth with sexual assault, and starved herself to prevent herself from growing breasts, and she knew she was underweight. She did not glorify it at all.

I was angry at the wrong person. I put the blame on her. Not on the photographer. Not on the director. Not on the marketing team. Not on all the people in the industry that sexualized an underweight teenage girl.

If you look at her... she's never gained weight you know? I assume she'll always struggle.

I suppose it's different, it's just - ever since then, I can't blame famous people for things that are happening around them - I know singers aren't in full control of their careers, tv show hosts have to do as they are told, and famous journalists may be a mouth piece but they don't always get full control to say what they want either.

I am sympathetic to Buck as a human being who has already gone this far, needs to justify it to themselves, and needs to make an income somehow.

[–] furyosa no, thank you 23 points

While I believe Buck's a victim to the cult due to her past trauma (and she has my sympathy for that as well), she's actively evangelizing the abusive cult's message, as exemplified in OPs post, and she needs to be called out on it. It's justified to be angry at her as long as she still engages in spreading the cult's message. Fiona didn't engage in evangelizing self-harm as life saving the way Buck is.

This is a poignant and beautifully written post. I agree entirely, while still wishing Angel would step away from this whole mess.

I can’t believe you don’t see the differences between Fiona and Buck. Fiona never set out to harm others BUCK VERY MUCH DOES.

I also think Buck is incredibly damaged, and should know that she is not fit to be around children.she should have that much self awareness.

Can you expand on this a bit please? It sounds like you're saying she she is not fit to be around children because she is "damaged", and I hope that's not the case. There are a lot of us who are "damaged" and would cut off our own hands before we used them to harm a child.

Buck isn't fit to be around children because she is a porn performer and pornographer who promotes porn as a positive way to discover and enjoy sexuality. She is not fit to be around children because she also promotes transition as a (super sexually exciting!) pathway to resolve various kinds of distress.

She obviously is not well, acts very erratically, goes on bouts of rage, etc. From her behavior I suspect she's probably addicted to something or other (as unfortunately many women and people in general in porn are).

This is exactly how I see the situation. It is so sad and she deserved so much more.

I really dislike the whole 'tranpa' thing. Man or woman, you have no business acting all chummy like that towards random kids online that you don't know.

I'll give Buck credit for telling her vaginal atrophy story because a lot of people were unaware of that potential complication before she spoke about it (and lord knows the TRA doctors aren't warning young TIFs about it).. But I've always believed we need to keep Buck at a distance because someone who enthusiastically participates in and defends the porn industry is not to be fully trusted.

The last thing we need is to be tarnished by proxy if Buck ends up like Mercedes Carrera (Carrera was a porn star and darling of the Libertarian and GamerGate scene. Until she was arrested for making kiddie porn of her own daughter with her pornographer husband)

F*cking fantastic post. I'm a desister rather than detransitioner but I echo your sentiments absolutely. Buck Angel was also my 'success story', and I only started to feel uncomfortable when I was listening to a Joe Rogan podcast with her and she described being attacked and beaten up when 'presenting' as a butch lesbian, but didn't connect that to her need to transition at all.

Buck nearly died from her 'lifesaving' treatments. She flip flops so much they'd call her a thong in Australia. Whatever pleases whoever she's talking to...

Wasn't she also the victim of child sex abuse? It's alarmingly common among TIFs.

[–] hmimperialtortie AGP = evil 26 points

OT but it’s nice to see thongs not referring to underwear again at last!

Fantastic post. You're so right that her "dysphoria" makes no sense. It's insane that Buck is cool with being sexually degraded just like any other woman in porn. But keeping her boobs and voice would have driven her to leap off a building? What?

Also, its no wonder Karen's videos triggered a tantrum. Buck is up to some shady shit and Karen brought it to light. Buck has no business acting as a mentor to other people's children when his entire public image revolves around porn and selling sex toys

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[–] jeannedarc 34 points Edited

Karen also made a post on her YT community 4 days ago with a link to a disturbing footage from the early 2000s where Buck went on the Howard Stern show and publicly humiliated herself by riding a type of sex machine while being ridiculed and misgendered by showrunners.

This sounds incredibly disturbing. The only thing I knew about Buck Angel before my recent peakening was the whole Contrapoints voice-over controversy, which is where I first learned about those "evil transmedicalists" lol (that's probably what sparked my peakening actually...) And then I recently read that RS article about the Larry Wachowski, which was wild.

But yeah, thanks for this. Buck is clearly a very troubled person to say the least. I'm anti-porn as it is but I could never bring myself to watch hers.

[–] visits_radio 44 points Edited

I watched the Howard Stern segment (I do not recommend it). Buck Angel acts like an insecure 'Cool Girl' who thinks that if she laughs off sexual harassment and degradation, the more likely she will be accepted as one of the bros but instead it invites greater humiliation and disgust because men don't see accepted debasement as chill, they see it as pathetic and worthy of derision.

This is why I think older transpeople try to act like an authority and be overly familiar to children (like calling themselves 'Tranpa'). Men respond to them with disgust and treat them like a joke. Women respond to them with pity. But only children are impressable enough not to see past the facade and think of them as cool. It is easier to avoid reality and not confront your F-ups in life when you have children validating you by following your footsteps in life.

Voice-over controversy???

Voice-over controversy???

Contra had Buck voice a segment in one of his videos. And Contra's TRA fanbase lost their minds over it.

Yeah, I had to look it up just now because I couldn't remember which Contrapoints video it was, but it's the one titled "Opulence." Buck Angel reads a John Waters quote at some point in the video, and that's why Contra was "cancelled" by his own kind lol.

[–] crodish 🤡🌏 10 points

They really fly off the handle at the slightest thing. Jesus lol

[–] Amareldys 12 points Edited

I wouldn't call her a joke, she's a human being.

She's a deeply unhealthy human being.

Look, if she had transitioned and gone to be a successful business "man", or an accountant, or a mechanic, or whatever, it would be one thing.

But she's a porn star. Not as something she did as a misguided young person, out of desperation for money or attention, that she grew out of. This is something she's made her whole life. She is deeply, deeply disturbed.

One can admire her resilience, the fact that she hasn't killed herself in spite of everything she is going through.

But she isn't a role model. She isn't an example of a healthy person.

I wouldn't call her a joke, though. She's a troubled individual. Nothing funny about that.

You don't have to listen to Buck for long to realise that Buck is seriously intense to the point of being a bit mental and not very susceptible to reality. But I do think Buck cares about young people who have gender dysphoria.

That doesn’t mean Buck is fit to counsel young people.

[–] hmimperialtortie AGP = evil 24 points

Brava! Buck Angel is frankly despicable imo.

“Her tits would have literally slither around her neck and suffocate her or what???” 🤣🤣🤣

Sorry for being crass with that image but I really don't know how to illustrate the ridiculousness of life-threatening healthy female body parts/traits 😅

[–] crodish 🤡🌏 4 points

Don't be I fucking bust a gut laughing at that mental image!

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