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I'm inquiring as someone who lives in the US.

I came across this instagram post in where two TIMs were harassed at a London chicken shop [news source]. They were minding their own business, getting food, when a group of hooligans threatened to shank (stab) them.

We can all admit that the attack was blatantly homophobic and/or "transphobic" (I personally believe when it comes to TIMs they are one and the same). However, they haven't found the perps, despite there being CCTV footage of them and there doesn't seem to the the same level of aggression towards arresting them as they do with GC women who don't commit any violent crimes against the trans community.

There seems to be a double standard in who the police over there go after for "transphobia". Is it all the police or rather, they are responding to the amount of complaints they get from TRAs that eggs on the witch hunt against GC women?

I also wonder what is in for the UK to come after GC women? From what I see, they're not super "woke" or leftist like other European nations. I am curious what the end game is here? Is the government over there being paid off by TRAs?
I'm inquiring as someone who lives in the US. I came across this [instagram post ](https://www.instagram.com/p/CZW-Zi6ohiL/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=c1df5fa2-0f21-423a-b076-cea7e9d8934d)in where two TIMs were harassed at a London chicken shop [[news source](https://www.mylondon.news/news/west-london-news/gang-chases-2-people-out-22923104)]. They were minding their own business, getting food, when a group of hooligans threatened to shank (stab) them. We can all admit that the attack was blatantly homophobic and/or "transphobic" (I personally believe when it comes to TIMs they are one and the same). However, they haven't found the perps, despite there being CCTV footage of them and there doesn't seem to the the same level of aggression towards arresting them as they do with GC women who don't commit any violent crimes against the trans community. There seems to be a double standard in who the police over there go after for "transphobia". Is it all the police or rather, they are responding to the amount of complaints they get from TRAs that eggs on the witch hunt against GC women? I also wonder what is in for the UK to come after GC women? From what I see, they're not super "woke" or leftist like other European nations. I am curious what the end game is here? Is the government over there being paid off by TRAs?

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[–] shewolfoffrance 🦕 34 points

I've thought for a while that most TRAs don't really care about "transphobia", i.e. TiPs being harassed or assaulted. To them male violence is natural and normal because they're just as willing to use intimidation and violence to get what they want as any other men.

What they actually care about is women telling them "no." They care about securing access to women's spaces and women's bodies in order to validate their fetish. Just like garden variety misogynists, male violence is a given, but female defiance is enraging.

[–] GenderCriticalDad 15 points

The british class system. Because its a chicken shop the cops know they are not posh, but that they are scrotes. They are neither posh, no are they being used by posh people as virtue tokens.

If it was a vegetarian bubble tea bar next to St Martins the would be straight round.
[–] Hermione 19 points

Women, when you arrest them, are a lot easier to deal with. Going after the actual perpetrators will probably just be a huge headache. And if they’re from an ethnic minority, then the police need to deal with looking bad AND possible backlash from that community. Really, it’s just more trouble than it’s worth.

But with women? Meh. Piece of cake. Book’em, meet some arbitrary numbers about fighting hate, and you don’t risk getting punched or kicked or putting your back out, the cost of keeping them in the cells is low, and being in that enviable position of being super busy without having to be effective.
[–] Thelnebriati 11 points

Many of the women speaking out are left wing and have a background in activism. The police have a long standing hatred of the left wing and of activist groups.

[–] momofreyrella 10 points

Its the same reason to irs goes after the poor rather than the rich. Its easier to punch down
[–] Gladys_Kravitz 7 points

It takes 4+ months to get my tax return, but if I owe the IRS money I better have sent that check yesterday.

[–] TheQuietPart 12 points

Yeah, as others have said, this is about who has trained the police.

There has been a coup in the UK through Stonewall, which had a reputation as an almost saintly gay rights organisation and had a quarter of the workforce working for organisations signed up to its schemes. And then in 2015 it abruptly changed and started pushing extreme genderism.

I don't think that Stonewall cares much about real transphobia or about people with genuine gender dysphoria. It has people like Alex Drummond on its trans advisory board, who is just a cross dresser who hasn't even bothered to shave his beard off but still identifies as a woman. Stonewall's political project is pushing Self ID, and it knows that the big enemies to that project are GC feminists. So when it trains organisations it tells them that the terrible transphobic hate they have to beware of is coming from GC women.

[–] IrishTheFrenchie 17 points

Same is happening in the US.

"Words are violence" while actual violence is considered "activism".

It's beyond fucked up.

[–] cupcakes_and_shiraz [OP] 🧁🍷🥰 11 points

I haven't seen any American women get arrested for GC beliefs (though I am sure if TRAs had it their way, it would happen).

[–] pennygadget 15 points Edited

I haven't seen any American women get arrested for GC beliefs (though I am sure if TRAs had it their way, it would happen).

Its only because Americans have a constitutional right to free speech (even if the speech is bad or hateful). But TRAs and their democrat enablers are doing their best to change that...
[–] cupcakes_and_shiraz [OP] 🧁🍷🥰 13 points Edited

Its only because Americans have a constitutional right to free speech (even if the speech is bad or hateful).

Thank goodness for small favors. American women have enough problems as it is, last thing we need is to fear getting arrested for calling a man in a dress, a man in a dress.
[–] worried19 3 points

Oh, they have tried. Police in Madison, Wisconsin went after Thistle Pettersen, but the charges were rightly dismissed.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/wolf-member-cited-for-hate-crime-for-feminist-stickers-301384738.html
[–] [Deleted] 10 points

Insert Peter Griffin meme here where woman is ‘Transphobe’ and a man is ‘sharing an opinion’

[–] Laila_Salem 10 points

They've been taken over and stonewalled, I think it's a decision from higher ranks.

What more beneficial to the end goal, focusing on silencing women and scaring them and draining them financially or catch a couple of criminals.

And if you think about it, has the police ever did real/effective policing, I think their history with women, many recent examples where women ended up murdered by men, and minorities says otherwise.
[–] [Deleted] 16 points

Yes, hasn't it been revealed that Stonewall UK has essentially become a money-laundering scheme? And the government has been partaking in it?

On top of that, the UK police have a very misogynistic history. The story of the Yorkshire Ripper, the grooming gangs scandals, and the recent murder of Sarah Everard are all prime examples. Going back further, you can see how horrifically the Suffragettes were treated. Blatant misogyny is entrenched in UK policing, imo.

[–] Laila_Salem 9 points

Their biggest funds come from the government, see this twitter thread.

Blatant misogyny is entrenched in UK policing

It's an establishment run by men for the benefit of men. A model you can apply to most police forces around the World.
[–] [Deleted] 6 points

Of course, police brutality is just institutionalised male violence. The OP was specifically asking about the UK, though, hence why I mentioned its particularly egregious history in that regard.

[–] cupcakes_and_shiraz [OP] 🧁🍷🥰 8 points

What more beneficial to the end goal, focusing on silencing women and scaring them and draining them financially or catch a couple of criminals.

Considering the UK's treatment of the suffragettes way back when, I would not doubt that this was what they were up to. I'm just horrified by the blatancy of their gestapo like actions and their ability to get away with such.
[–] Laila_Salem 4 points

It's really scary, specially when you see examples of them making sure their procedure is also part of the "punishment".
[–] Iceni 4 points Edited

If you want to listen to a long in depth podcast series, there was a BBC exposé on a lobbying group for trans rights called Stonewall. Stonewall allegedly is meant to advocate for LGBTQ rights but often forgets all about lesbians and women. Basically Stonewall act as consultants to various police forces and government entities and the BBC itself on transgender policy. That may have something to do with it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p09yjmph
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