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Woke Twitter is loving the new Disney Pixar film 'Turning Red,' despite the fact that there's zero inclusion of trans or non-binary ideological nonsense. The panda curse only affects the biological females in the family and has nothing to do with 'gender' (AKA 'feelings'). The friendships are all female and there's a lovely mother/daughter storyline.

Disney is a liberal company just like JK Rowling (and many women on this website including myself) is a liberal-minded woman. Why is it okay for Disney to acknowledge biological sex with their language for a movie (Turning Red acknowledged that periods are a FEMALE ONLY experience which happens to GIRLS AND WOMEN exclusively....in 2022!!! Whoa!), yet JK Rowling is cancelled for saying the same thing.

As a woman with mostly liberal beliefs, it kills me that Democratic and Labour politicians in the US and UK are too scared to define what a woman is because they're afraid of backlash from fringe groups on Twitter. Yet Disney makes a whole movie with an all-female creative team focusing on real girls and TRAs lap it up. Is it because Disney is a male-dominated company and it's not as bad for males to acknowledge that biological females exist? Is it just because the trans indoctrination crowd only seeks out validation from real women?

Woke Twitter is loving the new Disney Pixar film 'Turning Red,' despite the fact that there's zero inclusion of trans or non-binary ideological nonsense. The panda curse only affects the biological females in the family and has nothing to do with 'gender' (AKA 'feelings'). The friendships are all female and there's a lovely mother/daughter storyline. Disney is a liberal company just like JK Rowling (and many women on this website including myself) is a liberal-minded woman. Why is it okay for Disney to acknowledge biological sex with their language for a movie (Turning Red acknowledged that periods are a FEMALE ONLY experience which happens to GIRLS AND WOMEN exclusively....in 2022!!! Whoa!), yet JK Rowling is cancelled for saying the same thing. As a woman with mostly liberal beliefs, it kills me that Democratic and Labour politicians in the US and UK are too scared to define what a woman is because they're afraid of backlash from fringe groups on Twitter. Yet Disney makes a whole movie with an all-female creative team focusing on real girls and TRAs lap it up. Is it because Disney is a male-dominated company and it's not as bad for males to acknowledge that biological females exist? Is it just because the trans indoctrination crowd only seeks out validation from real women?

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Today i saw a frontpage reddit post about periods and it only talks about women and girls and it's highly upvoted. I checked the ten highest comments, no trans nonsense either! Is the tide slowly turning?

What was the subreddit though? It depends on who regularly posts to the new stories. The TRAs wouldn't see it in time to pile on before the rational comments took hold and sent it to the top page.

I still think the majority of people don't know anything about this shit. If you point blank asked them "should trans people have rights?", they'll say yes because it sounds like a ridiculous question, all people should have rights. But they wouldn't have noticed the shift in language or the belief that trans women are literally women or what "trans rights" really means. From the people I've spoken to about this, that's been mostly the case. And I say this as someone who has always celebrated LGB with the lumped in T up until 3 years ago because I was completely oblivious.

It was some generic shit like "you should know" or life hacks.

Yes to the general normies not knowing anything about this. Still now a sizable amount of people think "transwoman" means a woman who is trans. So to a lot of normies TWAW just means even though you trans out you're still a woman.

And don't get me started on bAnNiNg tRaNsgIrLs fRoM SpOrTs No Bradley, you're not "banned" you are still and always were allowed to play with the OTHER MEN

TRAs monitor this website, so now that you've brought it to their attention I'm sure there will be a twitter crusade demanding a "male" character get his period too. Disney will have to make a movie with an all trans cast to atone, haha.

But yeah, it's disappointing how the leftist politicians have allowed themselves to be taken hostage by teenagers on twitter. I think in a two party system it's kind of inevitable for each party to have to pander way more to its extremist base than it does to the center. For example there are a lot of moderate republicans in the US, but virtually no one in congress that represents them anymore, the MAGA cult is holding that party hostage.

Try it, TRAs. Freak out over this so a whole new wave of peakings occur. Midterms are within arm’s reach and your unhinged craziness is really what we need to shake some people awake.

They’re not afraid of backlash from fringe groups on Twitter. They’re afraid of backlash from the billionaire corporations backing those fringe groups.

[–] bellatrixbells BoobatrixRex 16 points

Wokesters are so contradictory sometimes. We all know how they rant about patriarchy just to turn around and deny the existence of women. I think there's some sort of compartmentalization going on where you can go full terf on one side but spit on feminists on the other when you're in TRA mode... I've seen this with some libfems. They'll talk about specifically female issues like we would, and at some point they just divert to TWAW and don't even seem to realize that those things are completely incompatible.

So the difference between JK and Disney in this context is that JK doesn't perform the trans/woke charade. She doesn't mind non whites, but she also doesn't go out of her way to shoehorn them everywhere like Disney keeps doing. She's honest and humble, accepting and caring, but the woke don't care about that. What they want is performance. They want you to scream the mantras at the top of your lungs. Whether you mean them or not is irrelevant.

They hate nuance too. There is no "I have no problem with homosexuals, but I didn't feel the need to include a gay character in that story". You stick a gay dude in there and you shut up. Doesn't matter if you actually think gay dudes are disgusting and should be beaten up. What matters is you've monkey danced. That's all.

She doesn't mind non whites, but she also doesn't go out of her way to shoehorn them everywhere like Disney keeps doing.

I agree with the rest of your comment, but I resent the idea that the existence of non-white characters implies 'wokeness' nowadays. Black and brown people exist and we deserve representation too. It's not 'shoehorning' to be inclusive when there are millions of us unlike trans unicorns who are only a tiny percentage. People of color make up the majority of the world's population and people should be able to enjoy stories about us just as much as we enjoy stories about white characters. Not everything about people of color should be political.

[–] bellatrixbells BoobatrixRex 5 points

That's exactly my point, I'm sorry if that was unclear. I have no problem with representation, what I hate is when I get the impression that writers/producers/etc have simply written a specifically non white character just to basically use as a token of wokeness. It's annoying for me and insulting for you.

I think Rowling, a white woman in a predominantly white country, has included a fair ratio of characters of different ethnicities. Characters of color have a presence that feels natural. I also liked how she reacted to Hermione being played by a black actress "I didn't write it that way, but why not?" It doesn't make a difference to the plot. It doesn't create an incoherence... Unlike Disney casting a brown woman as Snow White, or a bunch of black people to play 17th century French peasants... Which is not an artistic choice. It's done for woke points.

Unlike Disney casting a brown woman as Snow White, or a bunch of black people to play 17th century French peasants

I agree that race swapping characters from white to black/brown/Asian is definitely performative bullshit and woke nonsense. To me that's entirely different than including characters of color in new stories like Encanto or Turning Red

I’ve actually seen a ton of people on twitter claim that Mei is a trans boy and that the film depicts going through puberty as a trans person, specifically the changes the body goes through when a girl starts T. Girls can’t have 1 thing to themselves.

[–] OwnLyingEyes 17 points Edited

Woke Twitter (and woke IRL spaces that act like Woke Twitter) are pretty much always hypocritical about things like this. Everything's fine until someone finds a way to criticize it that gains traction, and then suddenly it's something to compare to genocide.

Honestly, I think even a lot of the routine cancel mob members are exhausted by it, but are addicted to the rush of being part of the group outrage of it, and fearful of it turning on them; they don't know how to stop, joining in is practically an ingrained reflex at this point. An angry mob is their community, and without it they're alone. But I think a lot want to just be able to enjoy a cute, positive movie in peace. They watch something they like, maybe notice some things that are 'problematic' by current-minute Woke Twitter standards in it and just...keep their heads down and hope the cancel mob passes this one by. And if it doesn't, if it blows up into A Thing, they'll painfully turn on the performative outrage again and join in. But it's exhausting. It's walking on eggshells all the time trying to toe the line with this crowd and never knowing when the next big outrage will hit and from what direction...and that's the point. Because it keeps them compliant. Things being named the new Worst Thing Ever are rarely about how bad they actually are on a scale of 1 to 10, the point is keeping everyone riding this outrage rush from one thing to the next.

IRL example, have seen people go full angry frothy mob over two people who went home together from the bar and had tipsy sex (something they all do on the regular) while easily tolerating a convicted rapist among their group who buys them all drinks.

[–] La_Terfa Moid Tamer 3 points

Is it because Disney is a male-dominated company and it's not as bad for males to acknowledge that biological females exist? Is it just because the trans indoctrination crowd only seeks out validation from real women?

It's probably a mix of that, and also the fact that the many faces at Disney aren't so readily available for harassment, I guess. JK Rowling is one author who created this entire world they're obsessed with and who is very clearly, very personally interacting with the trans movement to criticize it. She really put herself in the line of fire there.

I really feel like Rowling hurts them emotionally. Because, as I mentioned, she created the favourite book series of many transgenders and TRAs. They don't have the same connection to random executives at Disney. They used to love her and now, to them, she stabbed them in the back. Being hurt by someone you love is much worse than being hurt by people you don't even know. I'm not sympathizing with the TRAs, though, lol. It's good that they're in emotional anguish.

I would not look to Disney for any kind of moral behavior. They are sexist and have had a LOT of pedo scandals (probably exponentially more than we even know about) and put inappropriate stuff in content for children.

Not to mention the scandal of their shitty live action Mulan remake being filmed right next to one of China's Uyghur re-education camps....

Oh, I'm sure there are TRAs out there whining that this movie doesn't feature a trans-girl who transforms into a panda after getting "her" first tummy ache from taking estrogen pills.

Also, Rowling was an easier target because she's the sole creator of the original HP books. A major film like Turning Red doesn't have one sole writer/creator TRAs can target for writing a "TERFy" story that only includes actual females

I wasn't aware of this film until I read this post, so maybe it will take a while for TRAs to call it problematic.

[–] ProMoleratWaxer #1 Worst Poster 15 points

Oh they are actually whining about it not being penis inclusive enough online lul

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