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[–] PaulaAlquist 81 points Edited

They shouldn't even let men guard women, let alone locked IN PRISON CELLS WITH VULNERABLE WOMEN.

This is on you, Strangio.

Handmaidens like Strangio should be forced to spend a night locked in a cage with one of the stunning and brave trans-woman inmates they claim are so harmless and vulnerable. If they had to practice what they preach, this bullshit would stop

She will, of course, argue against this with a "but they're women and I'm a man." [puke]

She will, of course, argue against this with a "but they're women and I'm a man." [puke]

Good. Then she can spend the night in a validating male prison with a fellow man as her cell mate. That would change her tune as well (if she's lucky enough to get out of Man Jail alive)

I frankly think whoever this decision falls on the most should go to jail, even if for a night.

I hate when titles are written like this. They put the onus on the women, as if pregnancy just happened to them. They were raped, the men impregnated them. Use correct words for the actions.

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[–] GenderHeretic 62 points Edited

On the absolute most basic level, the reason women's prisons are separate isn't even to protect female inmates from rape. It's to prevent pregnancy— exactly this!

On the absolute most basic level, the reason women's prisons are seperate isn't even to protect female inmates from rape. It's to prevent pregnancy— exactly this!

Medical care in prisons is inadequate as it is. Now they have to worry that inmates can become pregnant in jail and may not realize it until they're in labor. Or the pregnant inmates might hide the pregnancy out of fear, shame, etc.

I fear the need to protect TIM feelings over female safety will lead to female inmates being forced to take birth control or get IUDs when sentenced to prison.

Medical care in prisons is inadequate as it is. Now they have to worry that inmates can become pregnant in jail and may not realize it until they're in labor. Or the pregnant inmates might hide the pregnancy out of fear, shame, etc.

Or this could happen in an area with no/limited abortion rights, forcing the women to give birth to their male rapist cellmate's baby.

I fear the need to protect TIM feelings over female safety will lead to female inmates being forced to take birth control or get IUDs when sentenced to prison.

The prisons are already passing out condoms. I fear that this may already be happening and it just hasn't come out yet.

[–] Hyacinth 7 points Edited

Dear God! I first thought condoms were a option that needed to be requested by female inmates 🙄 but what if the guards/counsellors are giving the condoms directly to the rapist men in womens prisons 😱😨😭

idk. Suppose you are a pedophile and you want to adopt your very own baby and the pesky laws and social workers are stopping you. What are you going to do about it, assuming absolutely maximal levels of evil?

Well, obviously you'll campaign for no-restrictions surrogacy. You'll campaign for a loophole that means looser standards of safeguarding can be applied to men. I reckon you'll also push for laws that give parents fewer rights over their kids. So far, so TRA.

But what if you want to hurry the process up? Even with all the loosened restrictions you campaigned for to make it easier to exploit poor and desperate women, it's too difficult to find a surrogate willing to give your creepy ass a baby. I guess you're going to have to find unwilling surrogates. A class of women with no rights, who can be made pregnant against their will, and have the babies removed from them after birth.

Lightbulb! You need to put rapist men in women's prisons. You contact all the high placed pedophile politicians you share CSA material with and tell them to get working on it.

And the world is so fucked up that you actually succeed.

(I had no sleep last night and am maximally cynical but yes, I am expecting that eventually there will be a thriving industry of prison baby adoptions. And the standards of those adoptions will keep getting more lax.)

Or this could happen in an area with no/limited abortion rights, forcing the women to give birth to their male rapist cellmate's baby.

This is a problem as well. Though its not much better with abortion rights in place because abortions make it easier to cover up the rapes

The prisons are already passing out condoms. I fear that this may already be happening and it just hasn't come out yet.

Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised either. Condoms are worthless if the rapist refuses to use them. So I would bet money that states like California are already pressuring female inmates to get IUDs, depo shots, and other long term birth control. Especially for Mexican women and other populations who are likely to be pro-life

This is the thing, even if you fully accept TWAW you still need to keep the "women who can impregnate" separated from the women who can be impregnated (otherwise known as 'women'.)

It is so bizarre how people don't realize that women are 100% understood to be acceptable collateral damage in trans ideology.

When the babies are born, they should sue the State of New Jersey for wrongful birth.

When the babies are born, they should sue the State of New Jersey for wrongful birth.

Yep. And the state (and ACLU) should have to pay the lifetime costs for any woman who keeps a child conceived via prison rape (ie pay enough to cover 18 years of rent plus a college fund for the child). If they have to pay lifetime costs for every baby conceived on a women's prison, they'll stop this bullshit

[–] yesisaiditxx 2 points Edited

How is possible to even do that though? I left a long comment on the main comments thread…but yeah I don’t see how they could tend to a baby in prison cells AND I think it’s horrific to allow a woman to get pregnant but not allow her the option to keep her baby. Perhaps these women are dangerous and extraordinarily mentally ill… then ok…but if not, I really can’t see what’s right here. Get out of prison just because you got pregnant? No. Let a baby be raised in prison? No. Take a baby from a woman because she got pregnant in prison when she shouldn’t have been able to in the first place and it’s YOUR FAULT? No. I know basically everyone myself included here is pro choice but I’m absolutely anti coercion in either direction and I’m pretty sure these women are going to be persuaded to abort.

I think what usually happens if women in prison are pregnant is that once they give birth, a family member either has to take their child, or the baby goes into the foster care system.

Well gosh however did that happen.

THIS is actually the reason we have sex-segregated facilities. To prevent the conception of unwanted BABIES, either via rape or consensual sex between people e.g. tweens, prisoners, psychiatric patients, who aren't fit to have kids right now.

[–] cupcakes_and_shiraz 🧁🍷🥰 30 points Edited

This is my annual fuck you screed to the ACLU because they support:

And now TIM rapists.

FUCK YOU ACLU!

ACLU is a joke when it comes to Trans Rights vs Women's rights. DOC is claiming that the sex is consensual. Prisons are wards of the State, they aren't supposed to have any sexual relations.

There's no Transitional Healthcare in Men's prisons. So basically these are just GNC men with fully functioning dicks with female prisons.

Just can't not stand this. ACLU should be sued.

ACLU is a joke on every issue these days. You'd never guess by looking at them now that they once stood up for the civil rights of the most unpopular groups in society.

Yes in the name of freedom of speech. But this is a whole "new level " of transfuckery.

I wish these women could sue the Williams Institute and ACLU for child support.

They probably don't have standing. But someone should have to pay.

New Jersey isn't the only state with women who are pregnant by trans inmates either. It's happening in California, too.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/prison-inmate-pregnant-after-state-lets-biological-men-into-womens-prison

The correctional facility began to house inmates by gender identity last year, after reaching a settlement in a lawsuit brought by a trans woman and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of New Jersey.

The ACLU has blood on its hands. What happens when the next male rapists in women's prisons find victims in states that have banned abortion? It's absolutely chilling.

The anti-abortion movement is in bed with the adoption industry so what do you want to bet this is the entire idea. They can't get free women to willingly give up babies in large enough numbers to suit the market so let's force some baby-production.

This is all so disgusting. A woman’s body is not a free for all rent a womb

Well the states that ban abortion tend not to have males in female prisons.

Those are our options ladies!

We can be forced to serve men but allowed abortions… or protected from them but forbidden from having abortions should the protections fail

Prison bosses said that in both instances, the sex was consensual.

Not possible, according to PREA.

Other protections include single-cell housing while final housing determinations are being made; being able to shower separately from other inmates; the right to have input into housing decisions and to appeal those decisions, and a prohibition of physical examinations to determine an inmate's genital status.

Pat-down searches or strip searches by transgender women by male officers will be prohibited.

So they get way more rights than women.

The report found that there were insufficient cameras, and that one storage room without a surveillance camera had a mattress lying in it.

WTF?!?!

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