Discussion I don't get the "deadnaming" BS.

Honestly, I think for some of them, "transitioning" is like a soft way of committing suicide. They attempt to obliterate the person they were and are, and replace that person with a new character they invent, with a fantasy of who they'd like to be. So they have a very negative response to anything tying them to their past, to that person they hate and don't want to be, to past actions they regret (or that they refuse to take responsibility for). Using their given name does that, and it shows that people who knew them before still see them as who they were in some ways. They don't want that continuity.

It’s control. Cults control the language of their followers, it’s part of controlling their thoughts, brain washing.

Transagenda just decided to act as if we were all part of the cult and control everyone’s language.

My own theory: Validation is incredibly important for people who wish to believe in something which is not reality-based or which cannot be verified or falsified using methods from ordinary reality. Trans people thirst for validation of their gender. Reminding them of their biological sex is the reverse of that validation, and makes them doubt if they actually are their new desired gender. That causes mental pain.

So I get why they want this validation. I'd love to be able to declare what other people can say to me, too, but the rest of us are not allowed to have those kinds of powers.

Rather, we are forced to perform this validation when we are forced to use certain pronouns, forced to avoid their past names and so on. I believe forcing others to comply with your wholly subjective beliefs is **exactly **like forcing others to obey the religious dictates of a religion they do not belong to.

Deadnames especially when told to me by young people are usually mentioned with such anger. Like it is an actual crime (and see the other post where they are filing charges against middle schoolers for using the wrong pronouns on purpose). Why is there such anger and hostility around this, just like misgendering.

This is one reason I peaked because people shouldn't get so mad over something if they are finally "happy" they tranisitioned.

It is like the whole concept of triggered. I have said before I am alcoholic (or have alcohol use disorder) basically I am a drunk trying not to drink again. I used to use the word "triggered" but I complete the whole sentence.

When there is booze in my house I am triggered to drink. When these people are triggered - they are triggered to feel and god forbid they should actually feel anything.

It hides men's pasts. They've made it so it's practically a crime to say a person's old name and it's perfect for pedophiles and other perverts. You can't find out what they've done if they change their name and there is no linking of the new woman's name to the old men's name.

I honestly think the trans crowd is so hot on this because it helps them hide their criminal histories.

Maybe this isn't the same thing, but I have a non-English name which I anglicized when I moved to an English-speaking country (think Ekaterina -> Katrina or Catherine, not a real example). I ended up hating that name because it just sounded like English speakers butchering my real name, so I picked a completely different name when I moved again to another English-speaking country, though I never told anyone to stop calling me Katrina. All 3 names are technically my name, even if 1 I really don't like and 1 I only like when people who actually know how to pronounce it call me it. It causes confusion sometimes, but I understand that it's on me to explain my 2 or sometimes 3 (Katrina doesn't come up very often anymore) names.

I have a friend who changed his name after he emancipated his parents. His parents were very abusive, and his deadname reminded him of living with them and the abuse he endured. Hearing that name causes him a lot of distress which he can't help. I think this is more along the lines of what TRAs argue, that hearing their deadnames is distressing or "dysphoric." Still, my friend recognizes that sometimes his deadname is going to come up, and he's working with a therapist to get a better handle on his trauma. He doesn't demand that everyone just forget his deadname and pretend like he was his current name all along. You can't rewrite history, not even in your own life.

It makes more sense when you think of it as a way to trip people up so the TIP has an excuse to abuse them.

For the fetishistic transvestites it is an interference with their erotic obsession and they react accordingly. I guess for others it's a reminder of trauma from which they want to identify away. Some are just narcissists.

I always feel bad for their parents. It took us forever to choose a name for my baby. I thought it was beautiful and I loved when people complimented it. When my baby passed I got her name tattooed on me, it's very special. It had a lot to do with our culture and ancestors. I made sure it wasn't a ridiculous name that would be embarrassing or would affect job opportunities too.

I would be heartbroken if she had changed it, but even worse if she hated it and felt insulted by it.

It’s one of the signs how trans ideology has further escalated just over the last few years.

I distinctly remember when Wikipedia would still list the birth names of trans people (usually like “Caitlyn Jenner (born on date xyz as Bruce Jenner)” or similar), and it wasn’t that long ago.