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[–] ShrewUntamed [OP] 77 points (+77|-0)

“There’s a sense in which you aren’t allowed to learn and grow. Also forgiveness is out of the question. I find it so lacking in compassion. How much of our wonderfully complex human selves are we losing?” she asks. “I think in America the worst kind of censorship is self-censorship, and it is something America is exporting to every part of the world. We have to be so careful: you said the wrong word you must be crucified immediately.” She was interested by “all the noise” sparked by JK Rowling’s article on sex and gender, “a perfectly reasonable piece” in her view, earlier this year. “Again JK Rowling is a woman who is progressive, who clearly stands for and believes in diversity.” She blames social media for this rush to censure, which she finds both “cruel and sad. And in terms of ideas, it is fundamentally uninteresting. The orthodoxy, the idea that you are supposed to mouth the words, it is so boring. In general, human beings are emotionally intelligent enough to know when something is coming from a bad place.”

[–] femuhnist 60 points (+60|-0)

"The orthodoxy, the idea that you are supposed to mouth the words, it is so boring. In general, human beings are emotionally intelligent enough to know when something is coming from a bad place."

This is so fantastically well said. Just, like, perfection.

[–] MaryHatch 34 points (+34|-0)

And she knows that we know exactly which words she's talking about!

[–] tymps 27 points (+27|-0)

Wow, I'm seriously about to jump up and cheer after reading this. This is so well said!

[–] FireproofWitch 71 points (+71|-0) Edited

She’s also said in the past that “trans women are trans women” rather than capitulating to the TWAW woque party line. I have a lot of respect for her, and I’m glad she’s spoken out.

[–] moody_ape 45 points (+45|-0)

the amount of backlash she received for that resonates to this day and she still holds her views steadily. i have nothing but admiration for this woman!

[–] Carrots90 7 points (+7|-0) Edited

So how many rich white TIMs accused her of ...~~~privilege or. whatever their oppression 💩 is

[–] TheRoyalJesterf 63 points (+63|-0)

Oh my god, an article that dares to mention something gender critical in a fair and neutral manner without demonizing the speaker... and in THE GUARDIAN, no less! Chimamanda is amazing! All I have read by her so far is "We Should All be Feminists" (which I LOVED), but she is so awesome in every interview I've seen, that I plan on reading more ASAP.

ARCHIVE before the woke cult memory holes this!

[–] FireproofWitch 33 points (+33|-0)

Haven’t you heard? The Guardian is apparently going “full TERF” these days 😉

[–] eris 10 points (+10|-0)

I highly recommend "Half of a Yellow Sun". Not for feminist purposes, just because it's a literary masterpiece!

But, fair warning: she is brutal in her writing and this book has a rape scene.

[–] Kestrel 5 points (+5|-0)

It's a great book, I had no idea about the Biafran War etc, and I loved learning more about Nigeria from it and Americanah as well.

[–] Berfnoel 55 points (+55|-0)

This post just reminded me that there are a lot, A LOT of feminists who do not believe in the trans movement but who do backflips and jump through hoops to reject them in ways that aren't so obvious so that they can protect their careers. bell hooks for instance pretends she is for the trans movement but read her books and when she talks of women, she will use the word female to exclude trans-identified men. She understands and has accepted the fact that the word woman doesn't belong to us anymore but instead of fighting against it, she uses female very passive-aggressively. It's sad really; I wish the left would have a backbone. I'm so glad we are seeing more and more women defending women and our right to claim ourselves and what is ours.

[–] femuhnist 36 points (+36|-0)

I've wondered about bell hooks ever since she criticized Laverne Cox for perpetuating stereotypes about women. I wish bell hooks, who is such a badass about so many things, would speak her authentic views on this but I know she can't. She has a lot to lose.

[–] RisingUp 11 points (+11|-0)

What does she have to lose? Genuinely asking, because I don't know anything about her life. I'm just thinking that she's a feminist icon, she has a lot of status, they can't erase her works or her career or make her disappear or take away her ability to earn a living.

I know no one wants to go through what JK Rowling has been put through but it seems like hooks must be in a better position than most to speak up. (I would think similar about Margaret Atwood though, and look how that's going. At least hooks isn't shitting all over her legacy like a coward, the way Atwood is.)

[–] MelMarieCurebee 7 points (+7|-0)

What is so ironic about Atwood to me (yet is a common arrogance among those who achieve prophetic success) is that she is missing how Gilead would actually come about. It wouldn't be a right wing takeover. That's too obvious, too straightforward. It would be through the erosion of what it means to be a woman, just like slavery happened through the erosion of what it meant to be a human. First you obliterate the category, make it taboo. Then you can subjugate the category, because the category "doesn't exist". Hunger Games got this dynamic more right, in my opinion, what with how President Coin is the less obvious baddie who Katniss didn't see coming after the more obvious President Snow. (Not a direct parallel to sex based subjugation, but nonetheless it captures how dystopian politics actually works, I think).

[–] femuhnist 4 points (+4|-0)

they can't erase her works or her career or make her disappear or take away her ability to earn a living

I believe she’s tenured but even so, she could face a lot of pressure and vilification from inside the academy and, if things got bad enough, I could see how she could lose her job and become virtually unemployable elsewhere. She could lose her book contract and not get another. I’m sure she could face other things, as a Black woman, that JK Rowling has not faced. Who even knows with cancel culture, the horrific possibilities are endless.

[–] Berfnoel 3 points (+3|-0)

Ps. Agreed about bell hooks. I absolutely love her and her books were transformative for me. She is also very FDS in her approach to men, love and dating but with this one issue, people refuse to speak up and it drives me crazy.

Another thinker who I deeply admire and follow religiously recently came out as gender critical - Slavoj Zizek. He is just amazing and I deliberately waited and searched for him to give his opinion on the trans movement because I've followed him for so long, I knew he would be gender critical (he is too radical not to be) and he is also someone who doesn't give a F about protecting his career or name (he is a white male, mind you so I'm not even gonna compare to what hooks is putting on the line) but like I guessed, he went all out and said exactly what he thought. He has a video on youtube about why the trans movement is not revolutionary at all.

[–] femuhnist 2 points (+2|-0)

Oh, this is so wonderful to hear! Zizek is someone who I admire as well. Thanks for sharing this, it made my day.

[–] Berfnoel 2 points (+2|-0)

I'd be interested to know what she said about LC. I know they have an interview on youtube but I can't stand LC so I never got around to watching it. It's not in that interview is it?

[–] femuhnist 3 points (+3|-0)

It was a few years back at some panel discussion. I remember hooks was pretty low key about the whole thing, but there were still some ruffled feathers, though not as many as when she called Beyonce a "terrorist" lmao, I love hooks.

Anyway just did some Googling and found this quick write up about it: https://rollingout.com/2014/10/13/laverne-cox-blasted-feminist-icon/

[–] devushka 25 points (+25|-0)

Looks like a new author for me to read. Does anyone have any recommendations for which books of hers to check out?

[–] SarahTheGreen 16 points (+16|-0)

I've read Half of a Yellow Sun and it pretty much blew me out of the water.

I am 50 pages into it right now and still not hooked. Did it take you a while to get into it? Can’t tell if it’s just not the right novel for me at this moment or whether I should push through.

[–] eris 3 points (+3|-0)

I think it starts a bit slow but gets really interesting as it goes along. I'm not actually sure, I was hooked from page 1 and binge-read it in two days. So, maybe it's not the right novel for you atm (or ever). It happens.

[–] Les 8 points (+8|-0)

If you're looking for something short and explicitly feminist, I recommend her book Dear Ijeawele, or a Feminist Manifesto in Fifteen Suggestions.

[–] stern-as-steel 19 points (+19|-0)

Gonna post this article on social media with this commentary:

If I have trouble taking people’s claims that JKR is a “white feminist” (objectively - of course, she is, if she’s white and a feminist) it’s because Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, a black woman from Nigeria, is also called a “white feminist” when she stands up for women’s sex-based rights. Something, therefore, doesn’t compute. Is it possible that it’s the feminist-ness that’s the issue?

[–] Carrots90 3 points (+3|-0)

Do it!!!

If you post it, please consider a post here linking it so we could see the responses. I would love to read it💕

[–] moody_ape 18 points (+18|-0)

this woman is simply increadible! i love her so much!!! everything she says makes so much sense - even when i disagree with her, i still admire her and her ideas. she is the best! and doesn't back off because someone gets ~~offended or anything. she knows her shit!

[–] gcfemale 14 points (+14|-0)

I wonder how GITs will attack her... Will they call our their usual white supremacy lol?

[–] hmimperialtortie 22 points (+22|-0)

They’ve accused her of “white feminism” before now.

[–] DaughtersOfLilith 13 points (+13|-0)

😂

You got to be kidding me.

[–] MelMarieCurebee 6 points (+6|-0)

If you follow any African feminists, Arabic feminists, Asian feminist, Native American feminists, etc, you'll quickly find that they're complaining about the same things "white feminists" complain about. It's yet another reason why I believe race harms feminism in America, it's a grand foil for the patriarchy to shut down the cause. (Also seen this tactic from New Atheists and America vs "oppressive religions" like Islam. "Christian/American women shouldn't complain because they don't have it as bad as a Muslim woman in Africa". Meanwhile, if you read the feed of a Muslim feminist from Africa, you wouldn't be able to tell it apart from the feed of a white secular feminist from America).

[–] yikesforever 2 points (+2|-0)

Oh, of course, anything they don't like is "white" and therefore dismissed. :P

Yep. And white women are apparently the worst humans ever to exist, therefore anything any woman says that TRAs don’t like comes from them.

They can’t even hide that they’re MRAs with added perversions (which is saying something).

[–] pixiebiz 5 points (+5|-0)

Pink News and Jezabel have pieces out on it.

[–] eris 5 points (+5|-0)

I went to check these articles out and the one on PrickNews links to an article about Roxanne Gay attacking Rowling :( which is really disappointing news, but it's also really telling that they used her as a token black person who is "on their side".

And these gems from the Jezabel one: "Remember when Rowling made up an entire world of magic and wizards and made the wizard banks run by goblin Jews?"

It's as if being violent misogynists is not enough, TRAs just cannot help but be racist and antisemitic.

"Just call me a dude and let us both get on with our days!" Sure, thanks for the permission.

[–] MelMarieCurebee 3 points (+3|-0)

Roxanne Gay blocked me on Twitter over a polite academic disagreement with one of her positions on feminism. I lost 90% of all respect for her as a feminist and as an academic in that moment. The other 10% has now fled with this news.

[–] Calico 13 points (+13|-0)

Such an absolute badass queen, we need women like her.

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