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They really don't get that the vast majority of girls don't get this girlhood, either.

This is a fantasy girlhood ... yeah, I suppose there are a few girls out there who get sleepovers and worry-free childhoods, but the vast majority of us struggle through various traumas, being shoved into different boxes that don't fit us, and having to fit into other people's ideas of who we should be. We're not given some glittery, sparkly, twirly-skirted magical girlhood paradise (or whatever). It's fucking brutal growing up as a little girl in a world that hates women.

[–] butchplease 21 points Edited

"I'm all "No, I don't wanna go home!" but my mom and the birthday girl's mom tell me "it's a sleepover party. Boys aren't allowed at a girls' sleepover." I was so, so far from understanding that I'm trans at the time that I just didn't have any reply to that. I knew it felt wildly unfair. Like, why? Why is that a rule? But, that was the rule, so I left, just utterly crushed inside for not being allowed to stay. For not being allowed, as I understand it now, to just be "one of the girls" with the rest of them. It's been forty-five years, and I'm still not letting that one go."

This is so beyond pathetic 🤣🤣🤣 oh the childhood trauma of encountering a female space and being told no for the first time in your entitled violent boylife, so you decide to become a skinwalker who intrudes on EVERY intimate female space and destroys all female human rights! Nothing screams "lowlife woman-hater with the potential to murder a feminist one day" like a fifty-year-old manchild who's still throwing testerical fits over that one time he wasn't allowed to intrude on the girls as a child.

“There is a girl at school I would have literally killed to be”

Why are we supposed to accept these males who regularly talk about how they want to murder us out of jealousy? Plenty of women are jealous of other women and it doesn’t manifest in this kind of talk.

It also couldn’t be clearer that this is a fetish. Sleepovers and trying on clothes? Go do that with some other perverts if you want it so bad. Are those things something that’s portrayed often in porn or something? It really didn’t figure into any girl’s life that I know and it didn’t figure in media much either. I don’t understand where they get it from.

Ahh, so he didn't want A girlhood, he wanted HER girlhood. Or his fetid, fervent imaginings of her girlhood.

Likely porn, and anime, and anime porn. Anime plays up the cute airheaded giggling young girls trope bigtime, generally for male eyes and male desires.

Yes. The focus on ‘changing in front of each other’ and ‘skinny dipping’ show what this is about

I was so self conscious as a kid there's no way in hell I would have changed in front of my friends or gone skinny dipping.

From the OP

I don’t know how to make friends irl, I’m the socially awkward autistic girl. Also that first paragraph makes me incredibly jealous

So, you would not have been going to any sleepovers or "swapping clothes" (what does this mean?). You were a friendless, weird little boy, you would have been a friendless, weird little girl.

This kills me - they are so deluded they think being a girl automatically means you get a devoted giggling friend circle and sleepovers every weekend?

I am sure I am not the only weird little girl who never knew how to pronounce words correctly because I read more than I had actual conversations with other human beings? I am sure I am not the only awkward little girl who was only invited to two birthday parties throughout elementary school out of sheer pity?

This idea that girls and women have life on easy mode is incredibly delusional and damaging. I understand some of these TIFs because at some points in my life I'm sure I would have given anything to be a boy if the ideology was available then.

I also think of my best (and only) friend, who was the victim of emotional abuse from her mother and sexual abuse from her father. She only ever wore boy clothes and dressed up as male figures every Halloween, and made vicious fun of every "girly" thing because she saw it as a weakness. She grew up and found some healing and is a fairly functional woman today, but no doubt in my mind she would have been transed out of existence if we were growing up now.

I know we've disagreed on other points, but just wanted to chime in and say here that we were both once little girls who read too much and therefore mispronounced words (I was mocked for my mispronunciations and you probably were too). Peace.

They all seem to think that no matter how physically repellent they look/looked as male, if they were reborn as a female they'd all be super hot.

No, ugly and awkward little girls have shitty childhoods. Same as ugly and awkward little boys.

What always astounds me with these types of posts is the underlying seething and rage at not getting what they feel they are entitled to, or owed by the world.

I imagine with these types of AGPs there is a huge crossover with Incel and rapist type thinking.

These are not normal well adjusted people. They are deeply unwell mentally and quite frankly are a danger to all woman that cross their path.

Dude, you’re not a tomboy, you’re a TIM who doesn’t pass, and won’t ever pass. Big difference.

All those types of comments translate to exactly the same thing: "I'm a man and am entitled to whatever I want. And I want to live out my perverted autogynephilic fantasy, including retroactively. How dare reality tell me no." That's all it is, nothing more.

Meanwhile in the world of people with serious problems, unlike this entitled clown's apparently life-threatening sleepover deficiency, so many children don't get to experience a CHILDHOOD, period.

My son has minimally verbal autism

I want a tshirt that says “you aren’t autistic, you’re just an asshole”

Stop appropriating a disability to cover for the fact people, especially women, d avoid you because they can tell you are a danger.

right? like my sister is autistic and my WHOLE TOWN loves her. people walk up to me, the older sister and ask "are you Sally's(not her real name) sister?" lmfao. our town loves oddballs. soo... this whole "I'm autistic so no one likes me" thing is bull. this isn't the 1800s. people are educated on autisim and care about the people who have it. anyone in this town would fight for my sister.

Or

“I have autism so you can’t get mad when I’m rude”

Socially awkward, not knowing social cues and intricacies is one thing.

Mean to others while being very sensitive to what others say to oneself is a bit sus

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