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I’ve always wondered about this but why does the lesbian community always have to reinvent a flag?

The purple flag with the labrys was struck down in recent years because it was created by a man (despite the labrys being a symbol in the lesbian community for decades).

The pink and red striped flag was initially specific to femmes but was later changed to accommodate all lesbians though many weren’t comfortable with the usage or the stereotypical “pink for girls”. Also, the creator was eventually alleged to be anti-Asian, biphobic, and discriminatory against butches.

Currently, the sunset flag is popular (particularly amongst younger lesbians) but in this case, the white stripe represents “nonbinary” lesbians and is inclusive to TIMs that fetishize lesbians. Also, not important but related to the flag, the creator was harassed online by teenage girls and TIMs for being “exclusionary” to self-proclaimed “bi/pan-lesbians”.

We’re now at a point in the community where “sapphics” and younger lesbians (mostly those under 25) are becoming spokespeople for the community and have the free reign to dismiss flags at their own will. It’s come to a point where people are making their own lesbian flags because they don’t feel any of these represent them personally. There are people making “lesbian” flags based on race, nationality, attraction to men, kinks, etc.

I was under the impression that flags were supposed to represent communities. When did we get to a point that this community has become so individualistic and think that people should just make their own flags or use whatever they “identify” with all the while, don’t identify as women or aren’t actually lesbians, just bi girls that want the label or men with a fetish.

What is your take on the lesbian flag? Which one do you use or which flag do you think we should find some agreement on as a community? Lastly, do you think we’ll ever come to a general consensus like it seems gay and bi folks have?

I’ve always wondered about this but why does the lesbian community always have to reinvent a flag? The purple flag with the labrys was struck down in recent years because it was created by a man (despite the labrys being a symbol in the lesbian community for decades). The pink and red striped flag was initially specific to femmes but was later changed to accommodate all lesbians though many weren’t comfortable with the usage or the stereotypical “pink for girls”. Also, the creator was eventually alleged to be anti-Asian, biphobic, and discriminatory against butches. Currently, the sunset flag is popular (particularly amongst younger lesbians) but in this case, the white stripe represents “nonbinary” lesbians and is inclusive to TIMs that fetishize lesbians. Also, not important but related to the flag, the creator was harassed online by teenage girls and TIMs for being “exclusionary” to self-proclaimed “bi/pan-lesbians”. We’re now at a point in the community where “sapphics” and younger lesbians (mostly those under 25) are becoming spokespeople for the community and have the free reign to dismiss flags at their own will. It’s come to a point where people are making their own lesbian flags because they don’t feel any of these represent them personally. There are people making “lesbian” flags based on race, nationality, attraction to men, kinks, etc. I was under the impression that flags were supposed to represent communities. When did we get to a point that this community has become so individualistic and think that people should just make their own flags or use whatever they “identify” with all the while, don’t identify as women or aren’t actually lesbians, just bi girls that want the label or men with a fetish. What is your take on the lesbian flag? Which one do you use or which flag do you think we should find some agreement on as a community? Lastly, do you think we’ll ever come to a general consensus like it seems gay and bi folks have?

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I like the Labrys flag, and hate the other ones. Frankly I think the gay male ally having been the one to put one design in the newspaper doesn't negate that lesbians had been using the Labrys symbol for decades already at that point, ever since Dr. Marija Gimbutas' archaeological work was published and the ideas spread around second-wave circles.. I have seen lots of lesbian publications from that era with Labrys symbols on them.

I am among those who absolutely hate pink (and the expectation that I perform femininity, enjoy degrading femininity rituals, stick to my assigned girl activities etc) and it's insulting that a pink lipstick lesbian flag invented on the internet is being shoved down our throats as supposedly representing our community as a whole, and the orange and gender BS doesn't make it any better. I hate it and refuse to fly any flag or button or sticker or whatever with those stripes, and every time someone is selling pride themed merch and doesn't have a Labrys I tell them well I'll buy one when you include my flag!

The extra insane thing is lots of q**** identified women my age I meet IRL have never even heard of the labrys flag because the begendered have done such a thorough job erasing our herstory and pushing gendered pink shit on young lesbians.

This x1000. After learning about the history of the lesbian flag, I was 100% on board with the labrys flag. I was honestly dumbfounded at how people hated it so much just because a man made it but they’ll be the same ones that think men can be a part of the lesbian community. In any case, the other two flags definitely either push women into color coded stereotypes or completely miss the point of what lesbian means all together. The labrys flag was literally intended to be inclusive to all lesbians, the labrys is our symbol and the color purple isn’t tied to masculinity or femininity. People on the internet just had to be weird about it and were so desperate to say “hey look at me, I made a flag, give me credit!”

Right, the pink stripes stand for fuck all and the Labrys actually means something. I think the use of the pink one is heavily tied to gender essentialist beliefs and we will probably see it wane when the homophobic entryism does... whenever that will be :/