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For many of us, the Halloween is right around the corner, and I have a habit of trying to get into horror more and more each year during this time.

Honestly, I feel like I watch more psychological thrillers than horror, but I am still not opposed to the entirety of the horror genre. I love my spooky and dark films. I also feel like there a lot of crossover in the psychological horror genre, anyways.

But horror films unfortunately come with the territory of having highly depraved and misogynistic films being able to be made under the horror genre.

Quite recently, I was coming off a video from Youtuber Wendigoon, about the disturbing movie iceberg (Here is the link for the video. Although it does not get into super intense detail for some of the worse movies on the list, it still gets graphic, so NSFW).

I have an extremely bad habit of watching/listening to stuff at work that makes me freaked out for days on end. I have a huge morbid curiosity with things like missing persons cases and internet crimes being committed, so that is kind of where I am coming from LOL.

I think the allure comes from the fact that I want to be woken up at work (not a huge coffee drinker), and hearing this stuff makes my brain go into full wake-up mode. I also am interested in hearing how terrifying our world can be, and how these things even happen (so…just morbid curiosity).

Anyways, the disturbing movie iceberg got me thinking about how male and depraved these movies all were. How they mostly involved women and children being subjected to the worst things, or just showed outright real-life violence in general. I understand that there is a fine line that the horror movie genre walks between these types of topics, but I find it increasingly more difficult to avoid when picking out a horror movie to watch. I will just spend hours looking up reviews on letterboxd and just flat-out give up and watch something I’ve already seen. For the films I have decided to settle on, sometimes it is so unbearable, that I just stop watching them completely. And this is coming from someone who can watch films such as Come and See or Antichrist (those have pushed the envelope though, I admit).

It’s extremely disheartening to know that most horror films go in the way of just having women sexually harassed and killed. And after watching the disturbing movie iceberg video, I feel terrified knowing that there are scores of men just completely and utterly desensitized to this sort of shit. It’ll probably be like this for the foreseeable future, too. Arguably, this just feels like a more acceptable way of accessing ‘gore porn’ or whatever the internet wants to call human depravity these days.

Maybe I am being a bit too naïve in asking, but are there any horror movies you ladies could recommend that are in the horror genre, but avoid a lot of the misogyny, violence against women, etc?

I understand that this kind of stuff is baked into the fabric of pretty much all horror movies depicting violence or murders or whatever, but I have an urge to move past that and find some genuinely appealing and terrifying horror films.

I would even go as far as to say that I would even appreciate a movie where the roles are reversed, just to get that whole perspective. I can only think of a few movies right now that kind of work in this way (Jennifer’s body, Carrie, Midsommar), but I’m open to seeing more of these kinds of flicks!

Please, I am open to any and all suggestions. Let’s work together get ourselves spooked this season!

For many of us, the Halloween is right around the corner, and I have a habit of trying to get into horror more and more each year during this time. Honestly, I feel like I watch more psychological thrillers than horror, but I am still not opposed to the entirety of the horror genre. I love my spooky and dark films. I also feel like there a lot of crossover in the psychological horror genre, anyways. But horror films unfortunately come with the territory of having highly depraved and misogynistic films being able to be made under the horror genre. Quite recently, I was coming off a video from Youtuber Wendigoon, about the disturbing movie iceberg (Here is the [link](https://youtu.be/_ZSPgiu4WIo) for the video. Although it does not get into super intense detail for some of the worse movies on the list, it still gets graphic, so NSFW). I have an extremely bad habit of watching/listening to stuff at work that makes me freaked out for days on end. I have a huge morbid curiosity with things like missing persons cases and internet crimes being committed, so that is kind of where I am coming from LOL. I think the allure comes from the fact that I want to be woken up at work (not a huge coffee drinker), and hearing this stuff makes my brain go into full wake-up mode. I also am interested in hearing how terrifying our world can be, and how these things even happen (so…just morbid curiosity). Anyways, the disturbing movie iceberg got me thinking about how male and depraved these movies all were. How they mostly involved women and children being subjected to the worst things, or just showed outright real-life violence in general. I understand that there is a fine line that the horror movie genre walks between these types of topics, but I find it increasingly more difficult to avoid when picking out a horror movie to watch. I will just spend hours looking up reviews on letterboxd and just flat-out give up and watch something I’ve already seen. For the films I have decided to settle on, sometimes it is so unbearable, that I just stop watching them completely. And this is coming from someone who can watch films such as Come and See or Antichrist (those have pushed the envelope though, I admit). It’s extremely disheartening to know that most horror films go in the way of just having women sexually harassed and killed. And after watching the disturbing movie iceberg video, I feel terrified knowing that there are scores of men just completely and utterly desensitized to this sort of shit. It’ll probably be like this for the foreseeable future, too. Arguably, this just feels like a more acceptable way of accessing ‘gore porn’ or whatever the internet wants to call human depravity these days. Maybe I am being a bit too naïve in asking, but are there any horror movies you ladies could recommend that are in the horror genre, but avoid a lot of the misogyny, violence against women, etc? I understand that this kind of stuff is baked into the fabric of pretty much all horror movies depicting violence or murders or whatever, but I have an urge to move past that and find some genuinely appealing and terrifying horror films. I would even go as far as to say that I would even appreciate a movie where the roles are reversed, just to get that whole perspective. I can only think of a few movies right now that kind of work in this way (Jennifer’s body, Carrie, Midsommar), but I’m open to seeing more of these kinds of flicks! Please, I am open to any and all suggestions. Let’s work together get ourselves spooked this season!

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[–] legopants 35 points Edited

Men will say rape isn't a big deal then throw it into every single movie they can as a crime/horror scene

Which is it fellas?

I know how you feel, though. My mom and I used to do a horror movie every night in October, now I can barely watch one since becoming radfem because of the male depravity as you said.

"Rape isn't a big deal" unless it's another man getting raped, that is. Then they have a really hard time watching it.

I can only think of a few movies right now that kind of work in this way (Jennifer’s body, Carrie, Midsommar),

Jennifer’s Body was marketed so dirty. I’m still mad that it’s not given its due because horny dudes were misled by the trailers.

I remember those trailers! They worked on me in that I said no thanks lol. They mainly featured the lesbian kissing scene and implied that Megan Fox would be having lots of graphic sex with men before killing them.

Right? I didn’t watch the movie until years later and only because there started being thinkpieces about how the trailers misrepresented it. That movie should have been heavily marketed to women instead. It was by women for women, but I’m glad that was eventually realized.

It's insane how dirty the marketing was!

I think it's one of the better horror movies to have come out within the last two decades, but I think I feel that way due to the fact that I was super unprepared for what the movie was actually about (because of the marketing lol). It was a very, very nice surprise.

I don’t generally like horror movies, but I loved this. It was so subversive of all the standard horror tropes.

Jennifer’s body has a female writer and director too, by design.

The Descent! Female led cast, really excellent all around.

Hereditary is another, Toni Collette is excellent.

The Others, more of a ghost story than psychological.

I do not believe The Mist had any rapeyness, but someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Cabin in the Woods

The Conjuring series does not have anything rapey at all

Blair Witch Project

Paranormal Activity series

The Sixth Sense

Signs

The VIllage --now that I think about it M Night Shamaylan is good about not being misogynistic. Although, some of his movies are batshit, like The Happening.

This is a great topic, some in this thread I haven't seen yet so I know what I will be doing this October.

I have seen soooo many horror movies and it's difficult to find ones without these undertones or where the women aren't aggressively sexualized.

Cabin in the Woods has to be one of my all-time favorites. Love the meta humor in that one.

But, I for sure have been convinced to see The Descent now! I dodged The Descent and The Conjuring for so many years, just because I never really thought they were good horror flicks, but I have been sold a lie and I need to actually watch them. They look great - All your recommendations are great!

I grew up in a sci-fi household, so allllll the alien movies. I hate it so much LOL. The Abyss still gives me nightmares.

I was looking for The Descent! That movie is a wild ride; spelunking from hell and all the awful darkness. And VERY claustrophobic. I highly recommend it.

There is an alternate ending too!

The mist series starts with the girl being raped, the film doesn’t.

The others is awesome, best child actors I've ever seen I gotta say.

Alien is good. Event Horizon a laugh. I love Hellraiser. It's rather sexually charged though. There's a killer motorcycle one in Netflix. The Phantasm films are bloke heavy but not rapey. First one a meditation on death that's quite deep. Killer sheep is just nuts. Shaun of the Dead. There's a great British one about a killing walking couple, Sightseers I think?

Have to say I love the genre as it's so broad. There's film's I'll never watch in the genre. Original Japanese (bar the Ring), Italian (just gory and boring) and torture porn. Look for psychological horrors for sure. Check out reviews on parents websites. Will give you an idea maybe if there's a pointless rape. Avoid anything French, they frigging love chucking rape into everything, and worse. Amazon a good range of horror. Avoid serial killer and Troma.

[–] disco_metal 1 points Edited

I second Alien! Although, come to think of it, wasn’t that scene with the other woman crew member, Lambert, vs. the alien kinda rapey? Still though, I recommend it.

I can't recall TBF. It's another one with a lot of weird energy to it. Ripley is excellent.

I mean, now that I think about it, the whole Alien concept is kind of meant to be this rapey horror—I mean, it’s this threat of a monstrous being impregnating humans, male or female. (And much has been made of the alien’s design, how phallic it is.) That… really gives a whole different meaning to “in space no one can hear you scream.” But the main thing with Alien is that it’s not a female-only threat—it was meant to give men too this sense of horror at the possibilities of rape and unwanted impregnation. What I appreciate is that none of this stuff is framed as erotic (particularly sexual violence against women) or funny (sexual violence against men). No, it’s this serious topic, serious fear, and the intended reaction is fear.

[–] otterstrom 8 points Edited

Can I just tuck in here to say I wish there were more psychological thrillers that weren’t “dark.” Why does what is psychologically intriguing always have to be about malice or deviance? What if there was a light psychological thriller? Not uncomplex, but not dark. Which wasn’t obnoxiously “positive”, but instead contained neutral or merely fascinating psychophilosophical structure.

I’ve got a recommendation! “The Lady Vanishes” by Hitchcock—yes it’s super old (1938) but here’s why I recommend it.

The basic plot is that a young woman is traveling through continental Europe by train and befriends a kind and whimsical older woman. The main character falls asleep, and when she wakes up, the older lady is gone, and when she asks what happens, everybody denies having seen the older woman. So we’ve got the dismissal of a woman’s claims that something is wrong and also women sticking up for women. Great themes. I mean, well, dismissing a woman’s fears and saying she must be crazy isn’t good, but it’s the main character, so it turns out she was right and she is also persistent and doesn’t back down.

It’s a thriller, but not horror. No horror. Also, since it was made in 1938, you don’t get sexual imagery or that stuff.

Alfred Hitchcock is the OG, definitely need to tap into his other movies. Especially this one!

I always appreciate a little older horror. Even stuff like The Twilight Zone still rocks me to the core to this very day.

As someone who considers herself a fan of some darker horror films - I agree!

I always thought those kinds of movies, the one that relies more on the plot and existential horror, are always the ones that stick with you longer. I would compare horror films with a large amount of jump scares as a bag of potato chips, while existential horror/horror movies with a solid plot are like a super hearty beef and potato stew. One just stays with you longer in your brain (like the stew in your guts), and it is pretty hard to come by that kind of skill!

I mean, I think gore and darker tones can be intriguing as hell, but I am on board with you there.

would compare horror films with a large amount of jump scares as a bag of potato chips, while existential horror/horror movies with a solid plot are like a super hearty beef and potato stew

Apt! Appreciate the understanding/commiseration. Don’t mind the dark, but sometimes you just want engagement!

I feel like the Jordan Peele horror movies aren't rapey at all, unless I'm remembering them wrong?

Agreed. Get Out is genius.

He also did NOPE recently, pretty good

Yet to see that. Waiting for streaming. Saw that last one, Us? Was ok but after Get Out. That film is just sheer genius.

Been a major fan of Peele's work since Get Out. I've been blessed to have seen every one of his movies in theaters, and I gotta say, I was struggling to convince myself to see NOPE in theaters for a second time due to that one scene. Y'all know the one. It was my most anticipated movie of the summer, and I was so happy to not be let down!

So far, I haven't seen any kind of rapey-ness in his films, and he definitely tackles very unique subject matter in his own special way.

I love his work, and I am so excited to see what he gets up to next!

[–] happy-harpy 7 points Edited

I just watched the new predator movie, Prey, and really enjoyed it. Female main character who’s a badass but also very human. I also love We Have Always Lived in the Castle, based on the book by Shirley Jackson. Great Halloween vibes!

ETA Crimson Peak and the Orphanage are two really good supernatural horror movies. No violence against women as far as I can remember. The Orphanage is super spooky and Crimson Peak is a classic gothic romance if you’re into that sorta thing.

Editing one more time. I read your other comments and decided to add a couple of movies I wasn’t sure about at first. The Color Out Of Space is a pretty disturbing but also somehow hilarious cosmic horror staring Nic Cage (there is a disturbing scene involving a mother and son, it’s not sexual or violent just..weird). You’re Next has a great female protag and subverts the home intruder trope. May is one of my favorites about a lonely girl who kills people to make friends. Dead and Breakfast is a horror comedy musical about voodoo zombies, it’s been a while since I’ve seen it but I think it checks the boxes. Slither is another one of my favorites about an alien parasite.

Not a film but the series Archive 81 is quite female focused. It’s deliciously creepy.

What Ever Happened to Baby Jane is a classic for a reason.

I also like Drag Me To Hell.

I'm with you. To me, there's a clear difference between the general violence of a genre and gratuitous violence against women in media. I can't get into slashers because the story is more important to me than shock value. As for recommendations, all of Jordan Peele's movies are excellent and very fun to analyze. If you want a great cosmic horror movie with a female-dominated cast, Annihilation is terrific. Ari Aster is the guy who did Midsommar and his other stuff that I've seen is pretty good, though Midsommar is his best movie in my opinion.

I'm not really into horror movies (too spooky), and everyone probably knows this already, but Get Out is really good and doesn't have any sexual harassment or needless killing of women. Otherwise, for some lesser-known gems, I'd recommend Korean horror.

The Whispering Corridors series isn't that scary in my experience, but Memento Mori is pretty good and has one of the first (IIRC) lesbian characters/couples in Korean cinema. They take place at all girls' schools, so most of the characters (except maybe a few teachers) are female. Memento Mori doesn't really have any violence; it's more psychological and quite sad. There are actually 6 films in the series, and the first one was pretty acclaimed (for depicting the realities of the harsh educational system)

Thirst is a twist on a vampire movie, about a devout priest who becomes a vampire after donating his body to find the cure for a deadly disease, and his struggles to control the thirst for blood and sex, both obviously against his morals. At least four women are injured or killed, but none by the male main character (IIRC), and the male main character pretends to assault a woman at one point (for kind of a good reason). There are a few weird but consensual sex scenes.

Some I haven't seen, but have heard good things about: The Host, A Tale of Two Sisters... and I didn't watch Train to Busan all the way through haha. And of course there's Parasite -- it has a few spooky moments, but is mostly a thriller / social commentary. I did scream a few times during it, though.

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