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I really wonder how it would provoke people in today's climate

Julie Sweeney does a great job of performing androygenous, she would be Mulan of Arc'd in 2022 I suppose

I was just wondering if anyone else remembers this movie.

I really wonder how it would provoke people in today's climate Julie Sweeney does a great job of performing androygenous, she would be Mulan of Arc'd in 2022 I suppose I was just wondering if anyone else remembers this movie.

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[–] ProxyMusic 19 points Edited

Yes, I remember It's Pat. But I remember even more Julia Sweeney's one woman show, God Said `Ha!', from the mid-90s. It's about the horrible but hilarious events that happened to Julia after It's Pat came out and the film got horrible reviews and audiences decided to ignore it.

First, Julia spent nearly year nursing her brother as battled against and finally died of of lymphoma at age 31 - and two weeks after his death, Julia found out she had cervical cancer.

Sweeney’s Big Disaster Year, as she describes it, began in May, 1994, after she had left the show and returned to L.A. First, she needed to accept that her marriage to writer Steven Hibbert had failed. “I didn’t really acknowledge that I was divorced until I left the show and came back to my house in L.A. and there was no one there but me,” she says.

Then “It’s Pat” was drubbed by critics in its limited release and ignored by the public (it was finally released in Los Angeles in February of this year).

“I understand now why that movie was completely unsuccessful,” Sweeney says, “but at the time I thought of it as my child--not the smartest one in the class but so cute! And my child was rejected by America. That was not pleasant.”

But that professional misfortune quickly paled when more personal tragedy struck.

After sitting in a hotel room for a weekend, watching as increasingly dispiriting “It’s Pat” reviews were faxed to her, she was told that her brother had collapsed while out to dinner with friends in New York. He was rushed to a hospital, where his advanced-stage lymph cancer was diagnosed.

“It was a very strange time, and in a way I kind of miss it,” Sweeney says of the months she spent caring for him. “Every day had a clear purpose and some new obstacle to get by. We went to the hospital, the Social Security office. We dealt with insurance, new prescriptions. We coordinated between all these doctors. Dealing with cancer was a full-time job, and I didn’t really have time to worry about my career. There’s nothing like some catastrophic illness in the family to make Hollywood seem small and silly.”

“When you spend so much time taking care of someone with cancer, you kind of feel like you must be building up some chits against getting cancer yourself,” she says. “Apparently, that’s not how the system works.”

With her unflinching truthfulness tempered by her sweetly charming stage manner, Sweeney has drawn laughter from the most horrendous--and explicit--aspects of her [own] illness.

“Because death and illness are the most horrible things in life, of course that’s where the most absurdly funny things are going to happen,” she says. “For instance, the surgeons [who performed Julia's hysterectomy for her cervical cancer] left my ovaries in, but they moved them so that they wouldn’t be affected by X-rays. One day, a doctor said, ‘Julia, we’ve lost one of your ovaries.’ I thought he meant it had stopped working, but he said, ‘No, it’s traveling through your body. Sometimes when ovaries are cut off from their “responsibilities,” they travel.’

“That was amazing to me. Where would a retired ovary go? What’s the anatomical equivalent of Florida? There was no way I could not find that situation hilarious.”

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-08-13-ca-34473-story.html

Like Sweeney, I had a beloved sibling (a sister) die an untimely death due to cancer in the 1990s and I found out shortly after her death that I too had a life-threatening disease requiring urgent attention. My sister who died in the 1990s was my third sibling to die young. After our brother died in childhood and our sister died at 24, me and my other surviving siblings figured we were all "vaccinated by fate/previous misfortune" against "coming down with" terminal illness in the prime of life ourselves. But we were set straight when the third one of us was diagnosed with cancer and given a diagnosis of "curtains" when she was only in her mid 40s. Then I too found out I was really, really sick...

Anyways, Julia Sweeney's God Said 'Ha! played a major role in giving me the spirit to stay alive and inspiring me to laugh at the absurdity of all the shit that came my way. I think she deserves a Nobel Prize.

Later, she did Letting Go of God, which was also very moving.

'A him or a her, a ma'am or a sir' lmao. I grew up watching SNL in the 90's.

I remember Pat very well, and, sometimes wonder how much of progressive's embrace of pronouns is a result of their own embarrassment at not being able to tell, when they encounter a Pat in Zoom meetings.

I still have the It's Pat book. I was really into SNL as a kid.

Yes! I was talking about it on one of my discords, we were thinking of doing a watch party, lol!

She has apologized for creating the character.

I thought the cult would love Pat and embrace Pat as a non binary icon.

I thought the cult would love Pat and embrace Pat as a non binary icon.

They hate Pat because her portrayal as a genderless blob who wears terrible clothes and makes everyone else uncomfortable hits too close to home for them. LOL

Yeah, it was a big storyline on Work in Progress, where the lesbian character was mocked and called Pat in college. Julia played herself and apologized.

Julia played herself and apologized.

I saw that scene and it made me furious! Why is it on Sweeny to apologize for something she made OVER THIRTY YEARS AGO because it offends the delicate sensibilities of some gender-specials today? Do they think she should have psychicly predicted that the character would be offensive decades later when SNL is no longer allowed to be funny?

I thought it was a fantastic premise. I saw the movie because I thought, like, for SURE they'll reveal whether Pat is male or female at the end, right? And Chris? yeah?

What made it so good though, was that Pat was just living Pat's best life. Everyone else was trying desperately to get some hint of Pat's gender, but Pat seemed unaware that it was even important, and was the ultimate troll in never giving the game away.

It's too bad that Pat had to be apologized for. Why not point to Pat as revolutionary? As a hilarious and early "non-binary" person who holds up a mirror to the common person and our discomfort with gender non-conformity?

I remember all the SNL movies from that time. A bit off topic, but I think they all really fell flat because something that can work in a five minute sketch doesn't always translate well to a full length movie.

I only learned about Pat through the show Work in Progress, where the main character confronts Julia Sweeney. She tells Julia that the character basically ruined her life, because she was always compared to Pat growing up as they looked similar. Julia is very apologetic in the show. Think the show was actually produced by a Wachowski. Has a few TIPs but the main character is interesting.