TIMs are literally one of the worst subsets of men. Now I might get ratiod for saying this but some men actually aren't completely awful- sometimes they even have aspirations beyond jerking off and violence! ๐Ÿ˜

Agree completely. Thereโ€™s always a chance a man is decent, or even better than decent. But the very fact of going TIM says he is absolute irredeemable scum.

I agree, i understand the mindset of some radfems around the topic of every single male being horrible (i've been there), but at the end of the day i think it's fruitless to lose hope in the decency of some men, especially young boys who are being raised in this culture. This doesn't mean to throw caution to the wind or drop your guard, but i've seen some really gross comments to mothers here that are concerning. I've been wanting to open this topic up more but am a little nervous

, but i've seen some really gross comments to mothers here that are concerning. I've been wanting to open this topic up more but am a little nervous

I'm curious to know when this happened. I've never seen it on here (maybe said comments were removed).

People can downvote me all they want, i don't care. There was a thread about raising boy children for women that are afraid to have sons. OP was really positive and there were many supportive comments, but also some really upvoted comments about how having sons at all adds to our oppression and we shouldn't even be creating more males. I get the anger where women are coming from, but I am also weary of the backlash of young boys internalizing these messages. It's uncomfortable to confront, but a lot boys and men who are trying to identify out of maleness have reported that it's from messages like this. Do we need to coddle and cater to those males by smoothing their egos and saying they are perfect angels? Absolutely not. But if we sincerely care about children, we owe it to young boys to believe that they are worthy. I love what Dr. Gail Dines has to say about her raising her boys with radical feminism as their first language.

Yeah, I get venting, but it makes me nervous seeing extreme views here. It's important that we don't fall into demonizing TIMs too much, or else our concerns and criticisms lose merit. The worst TIMs are the loudest, so it's easy to become biased.
The whole movement is destructive, but we should remember that many of the individuals are just extremely confused, mentally ill people who need therapy. One of the most productive, smart, creative, independently successful people I know is a friend of mine who's a TIM, but he's not at all like the ones we hear about here. He doesn't try to speak for women, doesn't try to invade women's spaces, and has actually told me how much he detests and resents TRAs. He keeps me grounded on the topic. But he is ill and needs help.

[โ€“] crodish fujoshit 6 points

I'll give them the benefit of doubt when they stop skinwalking us.

Your friend, as "grounded" as he might be, still claims womanhood because he identifies as one.