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[–] nothefunkind 9 points Edited

I agree, i understand the mindset of some radfems around the topic of every single male being horrible (i've been there), but at the end of the day i think it's fruitless to lose hope in the decency of some men, especially young boys who are being raised in this culture. This doesn't mean to throw caution to the wind or drop your guard, but i've seen some really gross comments to mothers here that are concerning. I've been wanting to open this topic up more but am a little nervous

, but i've seen some really gross comments to mothers here that are concerning. I've been wanting to open this topic up more but am a little nervous

I'm curious to know when this happened. I've never seen it on here (maybe said comments were removed).

People can downvote me all they want, i don't care. There was a thread about raising boy children for women that are afraid to have sons. OP was really positive and there were many supportive comments, but also some really upvoted comments about how having sons at all adds to our oppression and we shouldn't even be creating more males. I get the anger where women are coming from, but I am also weary of the backlash of young boys internalizing these messages. It's uncomfortable to confront, but a lot boys and men who are trying to identify out of maleness have reported that it's from messages like this. Do we need to coddle and cater to those males by smoothing their egos and saying they are perfect angels? Absolutely not. But if we sincerely care about children, we owe it to young boys to believe that they are worthy. I love what Dr. Gail Dines has to say about her raising her boys with radical feminism as their first language.

but a lot boys and men who are trying to identify out of maleness have reported that it's from messages like this.

I highly doubt this is actually the case. I think it's just another way of blaming women for male problems. How many young boys and men read radfem opinions in sincerity? It's male supremacist society that makes them believe they have to live up to a certain image of what a man is supposed to be.

Like for example growing up surrounded by violent porn, it would be a perfectly healthy reaction to not want to be like the men in those video clips. But the alternative isn't to claim to not be male – that changes nothing and is part of the same ideology that keeps the current social order going.