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[–] MelMarieCurebee 36 points (+37|-1)

And nobody seems to notice that all the prominent "BreadTubers" and other well-known supposedly left/progressive YouTubers are all MEN. I realized at one point that everybody was posting about Contrapoints (male), PhilosophyTube (male), Peter Coffin (male), whoeverthefuck else who was also male. It was almost like Contrapoints was thrown in so they could pretend that it wasn't just a lineup of white men that was super popular. People noticed this for black/white YouTube but not men/women.

[–] HessaHein 27 points (+27|-0)

Men have pushed women out of modern leftist groups, because then they would have to deal with the cognitive dissonance of supporting worker's rights vs prostitution. And seeing women support this nonsense, just sickens me.

[–] MelMarieCurebee 13 points (+13|-0)

Also the fact that the reason most people are poor or grow up poor is because of sexism not classism. Women getting underpaid, being principally responsible for childcare, and having inadequate social safety nets for women and their children, is the direct mechanism whereby poverty is replicated. This is a global truth which Marx failed to observe.

[–] Carthimundia 24 points (+24|-0)

Yes, and then we are supposed to listen to idiot guys like philosophy tube lecture us about why gender critical feminism is wrong. People keep recommending contra points videos to me and I can’t imagine why... his blatant fetishism and sexism is incredibly off putting.

[–] MelMarieCurebee 8 points (+8|-0)

Yeah, Contrapoints is the reason for all the rabid trans activism, I'm convinced. Contrapoints is good! Contrapoints took down Nazis! Contrapoints says they're a woman because they feel like a woman! People who hate contrapoints are Nazi scum.

[–] SulphuricMirror 1 points (+1|-0)

It sucks because at one point he was promoting Caliban and the Witch, an excellent book about how female labour has been exploited more and more since the Middle Ages as 'the commons' were usurped by the rich, and then he doesn't see how the bullshit he says about gender is in direct contradiction to what Sylvia Federici has been saying since the 70s about how female labour, especially motherhood (which only women of course can be the exploitable means by which more labourers are created) is exploited in a continuous cycle that maintains itself, and by extension our oppression and economic disadvantage. He thinks he's so smart but I feel like this contradiction should be so obvious that a child could see, and yet he either can't, or he knows but doesn't care enough about actual female liberation to speak up. It's the same problem I've had with politicians for years (and some monarchs), who are chiefly male, incidentally: they are either ignorant to key issues that should inform their decisions that even common, uneducated people know more about, in which case they are stupid. OR: they know the issues, but deliberately and knowingly act in ways that would harm certain people for their own gain, in which case they are evil.

[–] Lioness 31 points (+31|-0)

It's become almost "old fashioned" to be for women's rights these days. People think women's issues somehow don't exist/aren't as important as other issues just because they're comfortable with their own life as it is in the moment. Even in first world countries, most women can usually eventually escape to a form of independence that was denied to women for centuries now, but that doesn't magically make all of our problems go away. What about those who don't make it to adulthood? Or do so traumatized?

People have become blind to women's issues once more. Take their rights for granted. I'm so sick of it.

[–] immersang 23 points (+23|-0) Edited

It's extremely frustrating.

I remember how on the 'International Day for the Elimination of Violence Against Women' in November one of my local news outlets put a post about it on their Facebook page. I made the mistake of looking at the comments. Long list of "there shouldn't be violence against ANYONE" and "MEN suffer from violence, too!" and at least half of them were written by women. The only person that I noticed that called that out for what it was, i.e. another version of "All Lives Matter", was a man. Thankfully he at least got many likes for his comment.

[–] Griffxx 18 points (+18|-0)

I really don't understand why Liberal Feminism is so Male centered?

They are their oppressors. On the Patriarichal political food chain Men, especially White men, are the top.

[–] Nausicaa 18 points (+18|-0)

“Liberal” “feminists” are neither liberal nor feminist. They are at best bleeding heart HUMANISTS (that’s the word for prioritizing all human lives over everything else, NOT feminism) who have lost the plot. At worst, they’re neoliberal opportunists who personally benefit from pretending like their beliefs are all about inclusivity.

[–] Griffxx 3 points (+3|-0)

They claim feminism is to liberate men and women. How did men convince them that they were just as oppressed as women. 97% to 98% of violence against women and children are perpetrated by MEN. Just this one statistic should have given pause.

[–] Freyja 6 points (+6|-0) Edited

I really don't understand why Liberal Feminism is so Male centered?

Far more profitable for corporations for the movement to morph to emphasizing consumer freedom & lifestyle choice - especially the choice to conform to traditional gender norms & success for women within a capitalist framework. I'm not sure what the best term for it really is, if we ought to just call it corporate feminism at this point or what. Concurrently, you've got men (mostly, exceptions include pimps like Alejandra Gil) employing institutional capture within 'sex work' orgs (like NWSP) + feminist orgs (like FEMEN) & becoming buddy-buddy with what used to be more reputable orgs, like Amnesty International.

edit:oops'd a word

[–] Griffxx 1 points (+1|-0)

The only Corporations driving consumerism are:

The Fashion Industrial Complex that tells women and girls that there is something wrong with them, but they can Fix their flaws. 24/7 messaging.

Technological Industrial Complex. Gadgets for everything.

The Entertainment Industrial Complex which offers "Bread and Circuses."