[–] mil-bil 37 points (+37|-0)

Oh, exactly. Because we can actually all see reality and the same patriarchal hierarchy underlies all the linguistic dressing up and concept-twisting.

"Inclusive" language is a form of drag that parrots feminist concepts for the sake of reducing them to empty adornment.

(I'm a real ray of sunshine today!) Thanks for this post!

[–] no- [OP] 16 points (+16|-0)

"Inclusive" language is a form of drag that parrots feminist concepts for the sake of reducing them to empty adornment.

I want that on a t-shirt!

[–] Carthimundia 31 points (+31|-0)

On the old debate sub I literally had a TIM tell me that women can't be 'transwomen' because 'transwoman' isn't an 'identity' but 'woman' is. You need to have been born a male in order to be a TIM. When I pointed out that you could say literally the same thing for woman - being a woman isn't an identity and you need to be born female, that was 'wrong' because it's 'just different'.

Something else I've noticed is that women cannot be authorities at all about what womanhood means. I say that I don't experience a 'gender identity', that I don't feel like a woman, and the only thing that makes me a woman is my female body which definitely impacts on my day to day existence. But that doesn't count for shit, apparently. Meanwhile, males get to write long ass essays about how eyeliner defines their womanhood, https://www.bustle.com/p/how-eyeliner-defines-my-womanhood-54595, or that being a woman is about being a gaping asshole (see Andrea chu ) and that's totally fine.

[–] PlainSimpleTailor 27 points (+27|-0)

Cis women are trans women! Anyone who's claiming otherwise is upholding an oppressive binary :)

[–] VuvlaWasMyKidsFirstWord 28 points (+28|-0) Edited

Aren’t we all constantly in a state of transition?

I mean especially women- men always emphasize our “expiration date”, “past our prime “. We dont just become fat and ugly middle age undesirables overnight !

Our lives and existence are basically defined by our “transitions” in society’s eyes - from hot firm Fckables to sagging infertile post menopausal hags!

But they love to talk about “how they’ve always been women (and it’s always the barely post puberty teen/early 20s look they try to pull off)

We are the real trans women here haha

[–] BeninBronze 17 points (+17|-0)

Right! Hey we all transitioned from being girls to women so we should be able to call ourselves trans-women too by their logic 🤣

[–] DietCokeAddict 15 points (+15|-0)

Quite right! I’ve thought about it and I actually am a trans woman - doctors assigned me a gender at birth but I was non-binary as a child (I liked dolls AND dinosaurs!) During my teenage years I transitioned and became a woman.

Also, I always knew I was female, but that knowledge came from a basic understanding of biology - not some vague inner feelings based on stereotypes.

Was seriously laying in bed last night thinking about exactly this.

Inclusivity is only valid when it excludes women.

[–] klo137 19 points (+19|-0)

Since our bodies and brains are no different, we should all start identifying as transwomen and see how TRAs will like it.

[–] no- [OP] 15 points (+15|-0)

Yeah, and start cisplaining to them what transwomanhood is all about.

[–] DietCokeAddict 7 points (+7|-0)

Lol yes - they’d have to rethink their self-ID stance pretty quickly, might be a good thing!

[–] Proserpina 14 points (+14|-0) Edited

Oh, but we can be them. You just need to put on cat ears, bad makeup, do a ~kawaii uwu~ pose, and then identify as a transwoman. And maybe say "transtranswomen are transwomen" three times fast for good measure. That's how it works, right?

[–] CruelEnnui 12 points (+12|-0) Edited

I genuinely think we should try and make circumgender more mainstream. Transtrans women are valid too.

[–] momofreyrella 5 points (+5|-0)

Omg this is fantastic. Is it satire or serious?

[–] CruelEnnui 2 points (+2|-0)

Who knows? It's genuinely impossible to tell at this point. I don't think that should stop us from identifying as brave and stunning transtrans women.

[–] swamphag 8 points (+8|-0)

We should start identifying as transwomen as a form of protest. Legally, we're identical to TIMs right? If a group or scholarship is exclusively for TIMs, AFAB trans women should also be welcome. How could they possibly keep us out? There's no way to PROVE we weren't born male since trans people can get their birth certificates altered. Just show up, refuse to leave, and throw their own arguments back at them. "Unless you check my chromosomes you can't be sure I'm not a male woman you TERF!!", or "Um I'm not cis you're just jealous because I pass better than you hon."

[–] A_Matriarch 3 points (+3|-0)

This chess ♟ move is called the AFAB Trans gambit and it’s a WINNER!! 😏😏

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