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[–] [Deleted] 16 points (+16|-0)

I didn't say all detrans? Of course they'll have repurcussions, there's no mental illness that doesn't. You ruin your life, your body etc with whatever coping mechanisms you find. The issue with this is that it's sanctioned and supported by governments and the culture. And it's not just individuals with body dysmorphia, all mental illness seem to be cause for transitioning now. Especially because of the online culture and cultism what it does to vulnurable individuals, though you also have the deviant personality disorders taking advantage of this as well. It's not really a simple topic or idea but it is worth noting, that in terms of desiring or detransing these people have overcome a lot of brainwashing/mentally illness etc to get to the point where they realize they hurt themselves and it wasn't okay.

[–] arylcyclohexie 7 points (+7|-0)

yeah i agree.

there's the initial layer of mental illness and/or trauma that causes someone to transition which doesn't fix their problems at all. now they have to overcome the cult and what is a new mental illness, on top of the original which has definitely been exacerbated. then they lose all their friends and very often times they don't have much support anymore. right? the government doesn't even support us. it's hard to make it sound as much as it is. you have to reform your entire mind and world.

i think someone is successful for getting through any part of this. we will have scars forever but isn't being detrans rather than trans a success story? it's just really hard to feel like that when you're repercussions are dire. it is breaking out of a cult. i wish it was an exaggeration. it's hard to feel happy for any success. it's really hard to see people who haven't figured it out yet because i know they'll be hurting soon, too.

definitely, all mental illness can be a cause for transition now. totally not just body dysmorphia, even in 2012 peak tumblr years people could sneak by and still transition. what about all the websites telling you what to say to your doctor to get hormones? i was on tumblr at 13. i wasn't looking at trans blogs specifically but i would see trans posts from time to time... i was very mentally ill, vulnerable, and on the internet 24/7. it screwed me up. i never had much body dysmorphia until i found yaoi blogs then wanted to be a "pretty guy" because i felt subpar as a girl. i started noticing new insecurities about my body but because i already knew about trans, i put 2 + 2 together and thought that's why. instead of you know, just being a teenaged girl is really hard and boys weren't into me lol. i then bring autism into the mix omggg being mentally ill and online as a child is why i even thought possible to change sex. this topic does get a little bit complex

note: deleted comment was me. i said "yes" to "are you sure?" but i meant no. trying to edit for typos, i'm not great at typing :) said something like ""it's successful in that we woke up, but it's hard to feel like that or even bittersweet when you are missing a bunch of a body parts and it didn't have to happen"

[–] [Deleted] 2 points (+2|-0)

I agree. It's bittersweet, I think all victims an vulnerable people who have been preyed upon by abusers, cults etc feel like this. You broke free which is a success on it's own but the damage to you and your life and body is just too much sometimes. The trauma and PTSD would just add on to any existing issues. It's so irresponsible and downright inhumane the stance people have taken on this issue. There is no happiness or quality of life at the end of transition, because it is a symptom of the underlying mental illnesses. You can't give into a symptom, you'll only ever get worse. It'd be like telling a depressed person to keep cutting and lauding them left and right. Sure they'd feel the euphoria of acceptance and groupthink but at the end of the day they'll be the ones dealing with a body full of scars and no true people to call friends.

[–] Cessatrix 1 points (+1|-0)

I'm worried about my niece in middle school, going through her awkward phase constantly online. Do you have any advice for how I can support her?