[–] Tolecue 108 points (+108|-0)

Interesting how they don't allow "cis" women into their group but "cis" women must allow transwomen into our own spaces, the hypocrisy is unreal.

[–] Boudicaea 47 points (+47|-0)

Wonder what they would say if you told them you identify as a trans woman.

[–] SulphuricMirror 35 points (+36|-1)

Circumgender! There's a woman in the UK who did that, some politician I believe. To this day I still don't know if she was serious or a super mega stealth troll. We may never know.

[–] I_am_so_over_it 28 points (+28|-0)

My sister's partner was making a joke about being a woman who identifies as a transwoman and he thought he was being edgy. I was just like, "oh, you mean circumgender". He nearly died laughing in disbelief that there's a term for such idiocy.

[–] TheCakeIsALie 33 points (+33|-0)

Since NB is part of Trans, and NB has a billion genders, I can claim to be like 99.9% woman with 0.1% man (because I play video games with male avatars sometimes), I can be a trans nonbinary demi woman. But I'll just shorten it to trans woman. Did I do this right?

[–] HopeSummers 20 points (+20|-0)

I told that to my gay friend and he thought it was hilarious.

I mean, if you think about it, it's not that much crazier than identifying as another sex. One could identify with the struggles that transwomen face while still being born as cis right?

[–] shewolfoffrance 29 points (+29|-0)

But...but...biological sex is a spectrum! Sex doesn't equal gender identity! Can't they just be kind?

[–] shveya 22 points (+22|-0)

One of the guys harassing transwidows on r/mypartneristrans told a women she shouldn't even LURK on trans subs. But they're allowed to completely take over spaces made for women and throw temper tantrums if we stop centering them for even an hour.

[–] SueGen 2 points (+2|-0)

good grief, I feel like I need a decoder ring for that sub.

[–] Livin 1 points (+1|-0) Edited

The more and more I read about their crazy behavior, I feel we need to turn it in on them. We should set up fake accounts on Reddit, post this stuff. If it gets deleted it gets deleted. And then do it again and again. I mean.. that's if I had infinite time, was an incel & transcel loser, and I didn't actually have a demanding full time job, friends, and family.

[–] shveya 1 points (+1|-0)

Lol that's a good idea, they seem to have meltdowns when they get treated or spoken to the way that they treat women and gay/lesbian people. It probably wouldn't work, since they never gain any self-awareness, no matter how close they come to it.

[–] sconsolato 12 points (+12|-0)

And if faced with that hypocrisy, they will just call you names. because that solves everything.💀

[–] moone 5 points (+5|-0)

oh my, i never thought about it that way! thats a very good point tbh! :o

[–] Shinyowl 64 points (+64|-0) Edited

I do have a TIM friend who considers himself passable. He looks like Mr Clean with lipstick. Or Mrs Garrison from South Park.
He thinks she passes, because people are polite, and can tell that he's trying to pass as female. It is honestly so basic with these guys, they think if they wear a wig and lipstick and stuff their bras, they pass. I guess to other men, they are pretty passable . Any woman can tell in a second that it's a guy in a bra with lipstick and a wig.

[–] Laurel 59 points (+59|-0)

Which just goes to show that, for many, many men, the bra and wig are the woman.

[–] BogHag 45 points (+45|-0) Edited

I wonder how much the commercialization of femininity and porn have destroyed men's ability to identify a woman. It's absolutely comical how bad they are.

[–] delicate_silicate 50 points (+50|-0)

This is how men are. When women are just being polite and nice they misinterpret it as flirting. Now they're misinterpreting it as "I'm passing! If I wasn't then they wouldn't be so nice!"

[–] Boudicaea 31 points (+31|-0)

And yet they become so angry when you aren't polite and nice. Must mean that men feel entitled to flirting/sexual attraction from women. Huh, I thought we were equal now....

[–] Shinyowl 1 points (+1|-0)

God, if that isn't the truth! I'm not really out at work, and I made the mistake of having a really nice conversation with a male coworker of mine that left me thinking that he's a really decent guy.

Fast forward, and a few days later he was making really inappropriate comments, and I had to shut him down on the spot.

Just gross!

[–] MiMi2013 38 points (+38|-0)

Like children's crayon stick drawings : In the drawings, the men and women are indistinguishable from each other, except for the women having a skirt and long hair.

They have a child's understanding of sex : skirt + long hair = woman.

[–] Ash94 4 points (+4|-0)

These nutrans-identified men live on clown world.

[–] Livin 2 points (+2|-0) Edited

If they were actually women they would know the ingrained socialization since infancy and pressure women have to be "nice", "sweet", and "polite". Women are not typically overt with their insults, anger, and aggression (I mean this in day to day life outside the internet). That is typically more male behavior. Vocal women are usually called "bitches". TIMs don't get it that most women would never go up to them and tell them that they don't pass, comment on their body, or express that their outfit doesn't work, their hair doesn't look good, their makeup is bad, that they are not attractive, and etc.

If a close friend or family member of mine wore something off or asked for my opinion about their appearance then I would say something to them. However, in my normal day to day life, I am not going to go around putting people down. If I do make a comment, it's to compliment someone not put them down or make them feel insecure or bad about themselves. Again, it's usually men who are vocalizing their comments on women's appearances.

[–] lesbifriends 39 points (+39|-0)

I love it when they eat their own 😂

[–] sconsolato 17 points (+18|-1)

maybe he will peak in due time.

honestly, I don't understand how more TIM's don't peak after witnessing the batshit behavior of their peers from the inside. I guess they are already too brainwashed to see it as a fault.

[–] SamuraiGhostCat 19 points (+19|-0)

They aren’t brainwashed; they’re predators who condone and encourage this behavior in each other.

[–] Turtlefuzz 36 points (+36|-0)

TIMs: You don't owe anyone femininity, you don't need to pass! It's all about feeeeeeeeling like a woman!

Also TIMs: oh fuck oh God did someone misgender me in their mind did they see my stubble they know I'm a man gotta go cope

They love to claim that they don't care about passing but they love to obsess over it. Honestly, let them have it. I hope it causes them daily anxiety attacks.

[–] SulphuricMirror 29 points (+29|-0)

Oh wow, that's hilarious. They will cannibalize their own movement with attitudes like this.

Also, notice how they are allowed to dictate what kinds of people can participate in their communities… gee, must be nice to have all that male privilege, sir. Can't relate.

[–] BristlingBo2 25 points (+25|-0)

I thought you couldn't tell the difference? I thought that was the whole point?

[–] sconsolato 23 points (+23|-0)

Anyone else super curious to see the picture of the dude that apparently "passed" so well?

[–] XXathlete 5 points (+5|-0)

Guessing it's a member of Alok's crew; I've seen a conversation they had before. Spoiler alert: dude doesn't pass.

[–] Livin 3 points (+3|-0) Edited

Alok is such a creep. I'm all for gender nonconformity. Men should wear dresses, makeup, nail polish if they want too. Women should wear men's apparel, shave their heads, whatever.

However, Alok does it in a way, where it's really unattractive and looks fetishistic. It really looks like he dresses that way for attention, shock value, and to turn himself on. It's not ugly because he's man, it's ugly because of how he wears it and how he styles himself. If a woman dressed like the way he dressed she would be mocked and insulted. If a female celebrity presented herself the way Alok presents himself, she would be derided, insulted, humiliated, probably placed in the worst dressed list in magazines/online articles, and etc. But whatever, we live in a free world and if he wants to dress that way fine. However, if he was actually a woman, he would not be getting praised for his style, fashion, and gender nonconformity.

It's infuriating, because assholes like Alok expect everyone to bend to him and accommodate him. However, African American women and men are still being legitimately being discriminated in professional settings because of their hair. That is discrimination. Not some asshole man in a dress and bad makeup.

[–] Hiru 9 points (+9|-0)

Because it's not about passing anymore, it's about getting special privileges and attention for being trans

[–] xx_emptygrave 7 points (+7|-0)

They are allowed to have their own spaces but not women, that's twanzphobic

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