[–] hmimperialtortie 36 points (+36|-0)

They don’t want their own places, that’s the point. They want ours. These men are fetishists, most of them are predators, and they all hate women. It’s as much about silencing, controlling and raping women (and children) as it is about hiding from other men. That was never more than a smokescreen. They’ve shown over and over again that they don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt.

[–] kalina 23 points (+23|-0)

and it's so clear, too. I have never, literally NEVER seen any TIM advocate for a third space or even consider it briefly. Yet aren't they extremely opressed and constantly murdered? Somehow the only option is that they get to share our spaces.

[–] hmimperialtortie 12 points (+12|-0)

Yep. They’re in less danger than normal men and it makes it so obvious what the really want.

[–] hedy 7 points (+7|-0)

And they justify this with the argument that men can hurt them, without batting an eye.

[–] Ruby 6 points (+6|-0)

I once suggested 3rd bathrooms as an option for accessibility/families/trans people/etc and got DMed by a TRA calling me a bigot. Lol! Only trans people will fight against spaces that serve more people so they can get their demands met exactly how they want.

[–] femmefem 1 points (+1|-0)

Exactly! Every TIF I know is legitimately ecstatic whenever there's a gender neutral bathroom option. So strange that sentiment isn't shared by TIMs....

[–] Dryad 16 points (+16|-0)

Is the end goal of this extremely entitled and misogynist movement not forcing women back into the home? It seems like the perfect opportunity to take up all of our spaces from scholarships to elected positions. Women do want to share intimate spaces with men so how long until we are forced out of public life and back into the home where men clearly think we belong? Not to be a conspiracy nut, but maybe this ties into men panicking over declining birth rates. Force women back home so we pump out babies.

[–] SterlingWitch 9 points (+9|-0)

I agree and have been saying this. Taking away our sports is just the beginning. We will start being ejected from public life slowly and our only purpose will be to make babies.

[–] YpsiRadFem 8 points (+8|-0)

Women’s bathrooms are no longer bathrooms. They’re validation stations for TIMs.

[–] Notgonnastop 7 points (+7|-0)

Yep. The whole 'we just want to pee' mantra is justified by them as a safety from male violence argument but the second a separate safe space is suggested they yowl that they are so women and don't need separate space, just take over women's spaces. It's alllllllll about forcing society, law, politics and culture to 'validate their womanhood'.

[–] hedy 4 points (+4|-0)

If they "just want to pee", the men's room will do nicely.

[–] yesisaiditxx 6 points (+6|-0) Edited

YEEEEEEEP. I still refuse to see how other people don’t get how simple it really is. I’m not attacking the existence of trans people or trying to make you kill yourself or hoping you get attacked or anything by wanting only actual women in women’s bathrooms. It is as simple as…public place where women pull their underwear down, adjust their lactating breasts, little girls go in and out alone, etc. SHOULD HAVE NO DICKS. No dicks. That’s it. Shit make a law that only post op TiMs can go and even though that’ll be seen as so classist and invalidating it would at least let the public be more friendly to it (I’d still say NO, but that’s beside the point). As it stands nothing about your identity matters and trying to get all lofty and argue with me about what the abstract, metaphysical forms of Man and Woman are or calling me a bigot for “reducing people to their genitals” isn’t going to change the fact that half naked, young, old, and vulnerable women need to be able to piss, shit, milk, leak, bleed in peace without any policy that gives an open door to horny dicks floating around.

[–] mg2000 4 points (+4|-0)

I actually wholeheartedly support the very few people, who fight for third spaces. How much more support they would have, if they respected our boundaries. It just shows that the core message of mainstream trans activism is not diversity, mutual acceptance and respect, but dominance. Male dominance.

[–] GrimaceGravis 0 points (+0|-0)

I hate that it's the TIMs going after all of the women's spaces because they get butthurt if we don't accommodate them. It's never a TIF asking for accommodations into men's spaces...TIFs would rather occupy women only spaces than advocate for room in men only spaces, even though they decided to basically opt-out of women only spaces.

It's aggravating at this point. TIMs can go use the gender neutral space and leave actual women alone, but that's too much to ask.

[–] Tnetennba -1 points (+0|-1)

Random thought, but don't posts like this violate the spirit of this circle? Text posts aren't allowed, but somehow this text post is okay because it's a screenshot?