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[–] Mmmm_Brains 46 points (+46|-0) Edited

Never give a man the benefit of the doubt and never underestimate their propensity for depravity.

[–] KyonMelaina 38 points (+38|-0)

Spot on. For predators such as those described here, it consumes their life and very being. Everything else about their existence will be tailored to this one fixation.

I think this is very hard to understand for someone who isn't a predator; it took me years to grasp it. Non-predators are also prone to give others the benefit of the doubt, which predators absolutely use to their advantage.

[–] notyourfetish 20 points (+20|-0)

I think this is very hard to understand for someone who isn't a predator; it took me years to grasp it.

No, I think you were just lucky enough to not encounter many predators.

I was raised by a predator. She always took jobs as a school teacher over very young children, children who were just learning to speak and/or didn't have the language to report her.

Before I was born, she tried adopting a child so she could abuse her. The child was taken away from her, so she had her own child that she could abuse freely (me) and even named me after the girl she had failed to adopt. She shamelessly told me all of this, too, when I was too young to understand exactly what she meant.

My mother centered her entire life around putting herself in a place where she could abuse children. And I've known other predators who have done the same: doctors, animal rescuers, volunteers in homeless shelters. If it involves people or animals that are vulnerable and powerless, predators will be there.

The TRA handmaiden who don't get this either don't have much experience with predators or are predators themselves (and so they defend predators).

[–] calming-tea 5 points (+5|-0)

I dont have any personal experience either, but can trust that these things have happened and there are reasons why safeguarding is so important

TRAs rolling their eyes at safeguarding pisses me off more than anything else. I voluntereed in places where at least a woman had to be there. The male volunteers had also an enhanced DBS check (background check for criminal past?) and it is not like they expected male volunteers to be predators

but, y'know crime statistics and a basic buddy system goes a long way.

[–] CeruleanPisces 33 points (+33|-0)

I (very unfortunately) worked with a guy who was found guilty last year of making child pornography . I found out what he was being investigated for while we were working together, and that his crimes were against a 4 year old little girl. He Blamed that little girl, he claimed she had asked him to make porn of her so she could send it to her boyfriend. He didn’t for a single second take any responsibility for the years of grooming he had done, for the pain he caused her or her family, and lied about basically everything that had happened.

He also made gross sexual comments to me consistently. I worked alone late at night and he had to come back to the office every day and would be alone with me, luckily my other friend who worked there would wait with me until he left, my dumbass boss would get angry about my friend staying with me, but was fine with a sexual predator being alone with me in the office even after I told him he had made sexually inappropriate comments to me. Men are fucked in their heads.

He was a piano teacher who had spent 6 years in school just so he could have access to children. Oh, and other family’s had accused him of things before this. (Warning, detailed descriptions of child sexual abuse) https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/piano-teacher-darrin-hogue-child-porn-guilty-sentence-1.5711526

He’s a tiny little man, I could have easily kicked his ass, and I wish I had.

[–] proudcatlady 21 points (+21|-0)

He claimed a FOUR year old wanted him to make porn for her BOYFRIEND?

FOUR?!

Either that was a typo, or else this man is legitimately mentally challenged and has no understanding of how to convincingly lie or really anything about the way the world works.

[–] CeruleanPisces 19 points (+19|-0)

Yea, he told me that and expected me to buy it. His story was that he had gone to the bathroom and left her watching piano videos on his phone but she somehow found porn and then wanted to make some. I tried to write a letter to the crown prosecutor asking if I could write a letter or something to ensure he didn’t get parole or his sentence reduced but they never got back to me. He also disclosed that his dad allowed him to still have access to the internet while he was awaiting trial which was strictly forbidden. At work he only had a flip phone and no access to the internet as I worked at the only pc.

He was and is truly a monster, he took absolutely no accountability and showed 0 remorse. He said she seduced him.

[–] ElectricBlue 9 points (+9|-0)

Unfortunately I've heard a lot of similar things. Paedophiles often say that the kid was highly sexed and 'wanted' the sexual contact.

[–] Radical 7 points (+7|-0)

Yeah, that part especially made me go wtf... he should have gotten 15+ years or however long it took for him to take responsibility. As long as he's victim-blaming his 4yo victim, he can't be rehabilitated

[–] hufflepuff-poet 17 points (+17|-0) Edited

He Blamed that little girl, he claimed she had asked him to make porn of her so she could send it to her boyfriend. He didn’t for a single second take any responsibility for the years of grooming he had done, for the pain he caused her or her family, and lied about basically everything that had happened.

Years of grooming!? So since she was a toddler?! This girl has never known peace because of this monster. Men are disgusting and dangerous!! I hope the little girl is getting the support she needs to heal and enjoy the rest of her childhood. :'( Men are absolute trash, get a fucking life, creepy predators!! Castrate all of these predator men!!!! 😤😡

Eta: this monster only got 4 1/2 years! There is no justice for women and girls in this patriarchal hellhole 😡😡😡😡

[–] CeruleanPisces 10 points (+10|-0)

From what he told me and from what I read in articles he had been close friends with her parents and had begun teaching lessons to her when she was still very young.

[–] PaperDelusions 14 points (+14|-0) Edited

Only 4 years sentence? Give me a break

[–] GracieM 19 points (+19|-0)

This pisses me off so much. This is someone I would put away forever.

I hate sentencing rules. We will put away a woman who murdered her (alleged) DV husband for 40 years but rape a 4 year old and you’ll be free in just a few years!

[–] mjoll-thelioness 28 points (+28|-0)

So true! It just baffles me how society seems to forget all these clear examples of extreme lengths that men are willing to go in order to access/harass their victims.

But putting on a dress and lying online? Well no one would ever go that far!! 🙄 Any man wearing women's clothing is therefore automatically valid and thus, unquestionable and totally beyond reproach. It's so fucking ridiculous.

[–] platypus 27 points (+27|-0)

Well said. This kind of "no guy would put in that much effort" rhetoric really, really hurts women and children in a very direct way.

Men will literally go through the effort of seducing, marrying, and impregnating a woman to whom he is not attracted, all for the sake of molesting her eventual sons.

Benji from GNC Centric gave the excellent example of men who literally go through graduate school, investing thousands and thousands of dollars and hours of his life, all for the sake of becoming a gynecologist so he can sexually abuse women.

I hate how it's become almost politically incorrect to even talk about the shameful lies and manipulation men will use to get sex.
Back when it was about preserving the honor of the father, parents had no problem warning their daughters about men and boys who will say anything, do anything to get sex.
But now that a woman's chastity is less an issue of male honor, suddenly people could give less of a shit if women get abused. They'd rather sit around pissing and moaning about how "hard it is for men to be so mistrusted" and how "mass murderers just need women to stop being frigid and have sex with them."

[–] proudcatlady 17 points (+17|-0)

I really don’t think there’s any good reason for a man to become a gyno. I trust that 0%. I mean maybe “my mom died of ovarian cancer” but do men even care about their mothers like that? I want to believe so but I just don’t trust it.

I've heard they like it because it's interesting work and happier than most medicine.

I still don't trust male gynos to prioritize their female patients over the potential babies those patients can birth. Or plenty of female gynos tbh. My doctor has made some hilarious feminist comments that make it pretty clear where her sympathies lie, but I really hope I never have to find a new doctor.

[–] Srfthrowaway 7 points (+7|-0)

IME (in Canada, obgyn is a surgical specialty) they tend very strongly to see us as fascinating cases and challenging cases, as if we weren't over half the population. We are seen as complicated surgeries and/or complicated medical patients.

the male honor point is a really good one, thanks for bringing that up... I hadn't thought about this being a big factor in withdrawing any give-a-shit about women and girls, but I think you nailed it

[–] OneStarWolf 24 points (+24|-0)

I think the worst part is that many TRAs know the stats about male predators but don’t care. It’s worthwhile to sacrifice however many women and children for the skirt go spinny men.

[–] salt_and_tea 12 points (+12|-0) Edited

Skirt go spinnys / Predators

Insert Pam saying it's the same picture meme here

[–] sonic_fiXXation 14 points (+14|-0)

I used to think people think of all the negative ends of all demographics and assume that's what predators are. Eg, unedicated, unintelligent, low income, unemployed, lazy, etc. But I've been thinking a little more and I think people probably also think of predators as existing transiently, because they focus on the victims' encounters with the predators (out of empathy - what it must have been like for the victim), and not on the predators' encounters with the victims (people don't think what it must have been like for the predator). So there's no reason to think about what the predators life might be like, other than their job title and whatever else the media reports (which will just sound like a normal life).

So, when people read/watch reports on predators and their crimes, if the victims encounter seemed like 'wrong place wrong time', and the predator's job title seemed like a standard job, maybe that makes people assume the predator was opportunistic, without considering that the predator may have put a lot of time and effort into putting himself in the right place at the right time to commit his crimes. It's a very easy assumption to make. Especially if you can't imagine (or don't want to try) what it must be like to be a predator, and that his crimes would be a part of his life, a part of who he is. They're not just risky chances he took, they're major events that he planned and executed. They're probably like accomplishments to him. Milestones in his life. And that includes every success in gaining power and authority, getting that degree, landing that job, moving to that role, being named for some charitable acts, every little thing he does to give him access and control over his victims. It's a career in itself.

[–] Mmmm_Brains 12 points (+12|-0) Edited

I've read quite a bit of things from male POV, I felt it necessary to arm myself because it's been trained in us to excuse men. I wanted to break that mindset, and truly even the most normal man thinks like a predator.

The actor for You for example, he actively speaks against people liking his character and yet when he was practicing to get in the mindset he would stalk women. Walk behind them and get into the mindset, he truly didn't give a shot that he wasn't playing make belief, he actually committed a crime and terrorized those women. All for a part. So now you have a man willing to do that, not seeing the problem with it and you think what other things didn't he see a problem with? And I know he probably has a long list of victims, probably women because men don't think anything of hurting us.

I've read and seen more, from the horses mouths and there's a real disconnect between men and women. They truly do not hunk like us and I find women project their own empathy and good qualities onto men. They think because they think and feel that way, men do as well and that's just simply not the case. The way they operate is more methodical then we think, especially now that they all have access to reading materials on how to manipulate people(they'll do it for the most innocuous reasons, gaslighting comes natural), as well as interacting with one another.

And I find this especially bleak considering rape has become basically legal, it's harder to prosecute or even have rape cases stick nowadays. It's truly bleak out there. The stats say the same.

[–] BlackCirce hag lvl 33 🧙‍♀️ 10 points (+10|-0)

They truly do not think like us and I find women project their own empathy and good qualities onto men.

I struggle so much trying to explain this to other women.

[–] sonic_fiXXation 5 points (+5|-0)

Yes, and I was watching a clip from a woman who was tortured in China, and she was saying that when he tied her to the chair and started to undress, she asked him "don't you have a mother? why are you doing this?" and I just thought, how sad, that she thinks he's capable of thinking that way, of feeling empathy for her. it's just so sad.

[–] LaBrujaGorda 12 points (+12|-0)

Predatory men have straight up gone to medical school. Like years upon years of education to have access to women and children. If I was a predatory pervert I’d take wearing a dress over a decade of education and student loans.

[–] pennygadget 12 points (+12|-0)

I want to print this out and post it fucking EVERYWHERE!

The trans cult is training women and children to ignore red flags to soothe the feelings of mentally ill men. Like OP said, male predators will play insane long games to access their prey. And they're perfectly willing to risk their reputations, their family's reputations, their happy marriages, successful careers, etc just so they can bang a teenager or download child porn. The idea that these same predators won't simply put on lipstick and change their pronouns to prey on women & kids is absurd. But this is the world we live in now.

[–] yesisaiditxx 10 points (+10|-0) Edited

YEP.

And it isn’t totally targeted at TiMs for me. I get the argument that you would be excluding harmless people and maybe in some paradise on earth anyone could use any bathroom… but here’s an analogy that shows why I just don’t care if we have to sacrifice some feelings.

I don’t think all men are pedophiles, and I don’t think men should feel as if they don’t belong in child-heavy environments…BUT..would I be alright with my middle school daughter having male teachers go into their locker rooms? With a random man offering to go off alone to console a crying child on a playground? Nope. Is that because I think we should shame every man who happens to teach PE or be by a playground? No! It’s because the way you avoid harm is not opening the door for it in the first place. I don’t need to even be saying anything specifically about TiMs to say that I don’t want dicks to legally access private places with solo, vulnerable females and if the question is do you think “cis” males would really do that the answer is YES I DO!

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