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So funny how the gay males can point out reality and not be banned or bullied or have their subreddit taken down or overrun by TIMs. Gee, I wonder why that is . . .? 🤔

Was just thinking that. Glad there is a space for gay men to speak honestly about transgender but the fact that they remain while r/truelesbians was banned speaks volumes about the misogyny that powers reddit.

I was laughing my arse off until I read your comment, and the truth hit me like a brick. Fucking hell.

Yeah lol, I wanna hang out with the guy who wrote that comment. He seems fun. And he’s honest.

[–] Gini 🌸 Ad meliora 🦕 46 points

To be fair every single damn day they have posts like "why wont you date trans men?" and the comments are filling up with TRA's lately calling everyone transphobic.

It is weird that their sub has not been banned yet though but it's probably because there are some gay admins holding the line. Unfortunately for women I don't think there are that many if at all female admins who have a say in anything.

It really seems to me like there are more women supporting the gender identity ideology crap than men.

Yes, there really are. If women were united on this front the TRA's would never get control of these spaces. There are so many women in these communities, mainly bisexuals, who enjoy bashing other women and demonstrating what amazing "allies" they are. Do any of these people date trans women irl? Of course not, they don't even date women irl. It's just become a bizarre community of essentially straight women and straight men who have some fetishistic fantasy of what lesbianism is in their heads. I tried to stick around and gently talk some sense, but I just couldn't tolerate any more anime porn and descriptions of male genitalia.

Also weird how they would call a gay man a "terf", why would they expect people on a sub called "gay bros" to be full of rad fems? They don't even know what it means.

I agree, unfortunately. In my experience, the trans movement is forwarded mostly by fetishistic males and beardy misogynist bros but they are far outnumbered by the number of young women anxious to appear right on and socially progressive by selling out women.

They probably are locked down. Like, told to tread very carefully or they’ll be kicked off the mod team.

On male gay subs this debate is allowed, and on lesbian subs it’s an immediate permaban. So basically, the trans movement is just good old fashioned male privilege with extra steps.

[–] butchplease 56 points Edited

It fucks me up so much that the gay men are allowed to be as rude as they like and, yes, even obscene in turning down transmen; but catch a lesbian say "t-trans women are so womanly and beautiful b-but I h-have a penis trauma, I'm so sorry for being evil 🥺" and it's her death sentence.

Furthermore, I will never forgive the gay men in my country for trying to rape lesbians by proxy via forcing TIMs on us, while they themselves remain entirely unaffected by the gender craze. Because guess what? They're allowed to point and laugh at delusional women. Then they turn round and try to force us to bow to delusional penis. They make me beyond angry.

I literally don't consider gay men allies anymore. there are so few standing up to this cult that they've gone full traitor mode on lesbians. Lesbians, who fucking cared for them. cleaned them, gave them medicine, took care of their affairs, when they were dropping like flies of "gay plague" and were seen as lepers no one wanted to touch. Lesbians were there. And this is the pay back we get. I really think that as we re-group as lesbians, we need to make one thing clear: we may have something in common with gay men, but they are not our allies. They are men. They are misogynist scum and they are traitors. Only a very few of them seem to care about us. Just like only a very few straight men care about what happens to women. So there you go, they're just men. And we need to keep that in mind going forward and never waste energy helping them again. We should also distance ourselves from them politically and socially, if at all possible. Again, because they are males and the sexuality can poison everything and be quite perverted. Remember it was gay men who wanted to let pedophiles in the movement in the 70s, and it was lesbians who held the line and said, "uh, no, child raping is not a legit sexuality". If we weren't there, what would become of their civil rights movement? I say we leave them to cope for themselves and if they eat themselves over gender cult or pedo bullshit, then it's their own fault. We need to stop wasting time and energy babysitting and advocating for men, because what happens is they reap all the rewards and we lose everything. Everything. We literally don't have a community anymore. Where were gay men when that was happening? They can piss off as far as I'm concerned. We need to really take the Get The L Out movement seriously. Maybe some people will think that's too extreme or we need gay men or something, but I don't think so. Need them for what? They're men, most of them are worthless when it comes to creating anything positive for women.

Yes to EVERYTHING you wrote 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[–] no- 70 points

And this is why gatekeeping is essential.

Without power you can't gatekeep. You need to be able to keep someone out of your spaces and we women can't even physically do that, let alone politically.

But we can never stop trying, no matter how dire the situation becomes.

Maybe not alone but if we did if together we could. Unfortunately we're divided as fuck.

"I thought this place would be accepting of me like that other place where I hunt down, threaten and remove anyone who doesn't accept me !"

Actuallesbians is so inclusive, everyone is welcome except lesbians.

Yup, as an old lady I don't care that much, but I do feel bad for young girls who are coming to terms with their sexuality and go online because they don't have any lesbian friends in real life. They are already feeling ashamed for not being attracted to males, and then they're just subjected to more shame and bullying for not being attracted to males in this supposedly "lesbian" space. That pisses me off.

[–] LOriginedumonde 23 points Edited

I went and took a peek at the latest “nOt DaTiNg TrAnS mEn Is TrAnSpHoBiC!!!” post on r/askgaybros and this comment takes the win:

Most of you loud “I’d fuck a trans guy” are obvious TRAs in the streets, but TERFs in the sheets no matter what you say.”

I think the same applies to “lesbians” who cape hard for TIMs. It’s pathetic how people are so quick to sell out others who share their sexuality in which they’ve historically been oppressed for just to appease a bunch of deranged heterosexuals.

To be fair I think some gay men will basically fuck anything that moves so yeah I've met some that will satisfy their urges by having sex with tifs and are pretty much okay with it because the tif has a beard

As a straight I'm so sorry for these morons... Next level Fremdschämen 😩

And as a bisexual, I’m so sorry for the ones that claim to be “lesbians”.

The TIF asked them what they think about "male vagina" over a year ago and the answers are beautiful. Here's one thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/comments/juirby/comment/gcekc8y/

And call us TERF all you want. We're men, not feminists. The TERF slur has no power here.

And there it is. At least he's honest.

Yeah, they're big important men, not stupid worthless feminists. You can't push them around, because they actually matter.

I don’t understand the general adulation for gay men that Ovarit has. It seems like most of them are like this.

I agree, they're men they ain't shit and they sold lesbians up the river after lesbians gave them everything. Fuck them. Not my allies (only a very few exceptions, just like only a very very few straight men are allies of feminists).

Gay men don't want cut up women, homophobe. Stay mad about it.

You could cook bacon on this response

Wow... is that true? I can't think of any gay men who have been serial killers where their victims have been women. Now that I think of it I can't come up with any gay men who have murderers to women period. Are there statistics on this?

I think it means “cut up” as in mastectomies and phalloplasties, not as in “want to cut up women”, doesn’t it?

Yea Jeffrey Dahmer is the only gay serial killer that comes to mind and he didn't kill any women soooooi

[–] PaulaAlquist 1 points Edited

Richard Speck? I think he was homosexual, but he might have been a rage filled AGP. He gave himself crude paraffin implants while in prison. There are videos on youtube of this man bragging about the dick he is receiving in prison, while enjoying cocaine and women's clothing.

Remember when we could turn down anyone for any reason? Remember when "anything short of an enthusiastic yes is a no"? Remember when enforced boundaries was celebrated?

Can we fucking go back please?

Remember when enforced boundaries was celebrated?

That was a proud week, wasn't it?

[–] diana00912 16 points Edited

I clicked the OP's post history and she's an opioid addict. So sad.

She's also "had gay sex with other FTMs."

Someone down further said that "trans women are harassed and murdered more than cis women"

Directly after someone said that trans anything are pretty much the safest demographic on the planet. Like dude are you even reading what people are posting?

TRAs just vomit up soundbites without thinking or understanding

They're murdered at exactly the same rate as women. When you remove sex workers, the trans woman murder rates are much, much lower than the murder rates of females. Most women are murdered by their current or ex male partners, and since most trans women are AGP's, who's going to murder them?

I almost feel like going through and reporting all the "TERF" type comments just for equality's sake.

Hey, if we can't say it then you can't say it either.

If more men got sanctioned like we do, there would be more outrage, instead of "a bunch of whiny wimmin".

Tbh do it! Maybe it'll make Ashton Challenor the vile pedophile and accessory to severe child rape and torture, who so obviously still works for reddit seeth.

Ok, I admit I genuinely laughed at the thought of both of those subs being filled with the complete opposite of what they claim.

You reap what you sow.

Yeah, for the people who let the TRAs step on them. But it sucks for the people who don't have a space on Reddit and can't speak up about it there. Luckily we have this space.

That comment kind of reminds me of posts I've seen in other places by men laughing at women, saying that we've "reaped what we've sown" because our spaces are disappearing.

[–] Lolo 11 points

it's strange that they think banning peoples views will make those views blink out of existence.

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