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[–] courage2courage 42 points (+43|-1)

Lol in my day, the Snape theory was that he was a vampire.

I miss those more innocent times.

[–] Barber_Acrobatic 38 points (+38|-0)

Is Snape the one they want to claim? The one who at the first sniff of rejection ran off and joined the magical equivalent of the nazis?

Saying that I now have a delightful image of TERF in Chief McGonagall taking absolutely zero bullshit when it comes to Snape wanting to lurk in her toilet.

[–] Pleiades3291 24 points (+24|-0)

Yes, radfem McGonagall!

[–] FireproofWitch 20 points (+20|-0) Edited

I think it’s safe to say both McGonagall and Hermione were radfems to the absolute core. No wonder I identified with them more than anyone else I’ve ever encountered in literature.

[–] bellatrixbells 13 points (+13|-0)

"Hermione [was] radfem to the absolute core"

I've been saying that Emma Watson was a sorry miscast for almost twenty years !!

[–] shewolfoffrance 7 points (+7|-0)

McGonagall has definitely live long enough to see shit and not give a fuck. True witch!

[–] immersang 21 points (+21|-0) Edited

Snape has been heavily sugarcoated in Harry Potter fandom for ages, even before any trans craze. People wanted to see him as this poor misunderstood tortured soul who really was a good guy all along. This to the point where they basically completely ignored how he made Harry’s life hell for absolutely no reason but “your dad was mean to me and you have the misfortune of looking like him.” Not to mention poor Neville.

Yes! And like just because he had a crush on Lily and saved Harry’s life he was this big hero. No. He was an asshole from his first chapter to his last.

[–] bellatrixbells 4 points (+4|-0) Edited

Wow I feel personally attacked by this. Snape is one of my personal favourites.

Also there was a "I have to be mean to you" for it to be credible element to it, which Dumbledore pretty much condoned.

I guess one could argue this is a patriarchal/romantic habit of forgiving the man for being nasty if he's hopelessly in love. In the meantime though I guess I can kind of understand how a bullied kid ends up being constantly torn between revenge and the right thing.

Also James was the wizard equivalent of the cool jock jerk bully... I feel like in going full incel here.

Fuck, there you have it. Snape is an incel 😂😂😂

Edit : yes, this is literally my line of thought while writing this comment. I had no idea I was going in this direction HAHAH

[–] Amareldys 4 points (+4|-0)

Snape IS an incel, but at the same time his nastiness to Harry was exaggerated in case Voldemort peeked into Harry's mind.

[–] wildpansy 4 points (+4|-0)

Snape was your standard power-abusing bully teacher, he was obviously unfair and nasty to Harry but he never put him in any danger. In the end he sacrificed his life for the good cause instead of giving in to his resentment and bitterness. So yes, he was an incel in a sense but everyone has selfish motives deep down so it's not that big of a deal.

[–] Mikkal 35 points (+36|-1) Edited

If you think of Harry's father as a jock, and Snape as a smart, slightly awkward type who focuses on intellectual pursuits, that doesn't make him less of a man. In fact, intellectual men can be worse then "buff" types in taking rejection badly and seething about it. It's a different flavor of masculinity - not a rejection of it!

Look how badly Snape handles rejection. He never dates anyone else, plays "nice guy" and hopes he can swoop in when her husband gets knocked off.

It bugs me that people romanticize him. It's no fun to have someone who is "in love with you" who you don't like.

It's like Patriarchy 101: I (male) choose you (female), you shouldn't get a say in it. You should learn to love the one that chose you.

[–] Pleiades3291 19 points (+19|-0)

Right, I always saw Snape more as an "incel" than anything else (gay, trans, etc.).

[–] Jellyfishes [OP] 13 points (+13|-0)

Look how badly Snape handles rejection. He never dates anyone else, plays "nice guy" and hopes he can swoop in when her husband gets knocked off.

At least this part is similar to TIM's behavior, guess Tumblr got something right

[–] Al_of_the_dead 19 points (+19|-0)

I... I don't want to ask.

[–] Pleiades3291 24 points (+24|-0) Edited

This article explaining it is pretty unintentionally funny.

First of all, it continuously refers to these theorists as "scholars". I don't think that word means what they think it means.

Also:

"I can't fathom Snape not being trans," Ensnapingthesenses concurred, adding that "the contextual clues all point to it." Even though "the result is never confirmed," he continued, it is also "never outright denied."

So I guess authors are supposed to go around constantly proclaiming that their characters are not trans?

[–] remove-the-veil 17 points (+17|-0)

I do not have nearly enough eyes to roll in reaction to this....

[–] Pleiades3291 28 points (+28|-0)

I can just picture that being shoved somewhere into JKR's writing. Like, in the middle of a descriptive paragraph, just say "And Snape, who is totally not a transwoman, sneered."

[–] immersang 11 points (+11|-0)

There are literally zero “contextual clues” pointing to that. Anywhere in those books.

Right? It was written for kids and teens in the 90s and 2000s. It’s all friendship, teen dating, and straight marriage.

[–] RisingUp 9 points (+10|-1)

To be fair I think it's intentionally funny. Which makes it a lot less funny.

I am still confused after reading it about how someone can "headcanon" a character as "trans" who was shown to be biologically male since childhood and male-presenting throughout the books until he died.

But I think what they're really arguing is that he was an AGP, and Lily was the woman he'd obsessively fixated on for identity stealing purposes. Which... yeah, fine, I can actually see that.

[–] Pleiades3291 3 points (+4|-1) Edited

To be fair I think it's intentionally funny.

The author of this piece is a TiM. It's definitely supposed to be taken seriously. (sadly)

https://www.vice.com/en/contributor/diana-tourjee

https://mobile.twitter.com/DianaTourjee

[–] kalina 19 points (+19|-0)

Easy. On tumblr, everyone's 'headcanon' was usually that every single male character is gay, now they are all trans. And once someone has come up with this idea you cannot say 'uhm I don't think so' without being a transphobi piece of shit.

I've seen a lot about Steve Rogers (Captain America) supposedly being trans or a trans allegory, probably bc he started off tiny and weak and had a medically induced 'transition' to a big stronk boi.

[–] feralfeminist 25 points (+25|-0)

So they had headcanon that everyone in HP was gay but JKR is just an "attention seeker" for saying Dumbledore was gay? How's that work? Wait, never mind. I know.

[–] Mafalda 14 points (+14|-0)

That always pissed me off. She was asked directly about his sexuality, and she was considering the backstory of the intense relationship between he and Gridelwald. I don’t think that needed to be gay to be intense - he was was isolated, thrilled to have an intellectual equal to talk to, and stifling under his family responsibility. A super close friendship would also be reasonable.

Basically any character (like, 90% of protagonists) that has either a transformation arc or a "has to hide their true self" arc gets transed. Because obviously no one else could relate to it 🤷‍♀️

But if Steve Rogers is a TIF, how can they be okay with Chris Evans playing him?!