[–] RealMapelFlavour 105 points (+105|-0) Edited

If this doesn't offend you... why does this?

Because the woman in the hoodie doesn't think she's suddenly a man.

[–] AmyHousewine 23 points (+23|-0)

Seriously, do people really think that women wearing jeans and shirts are pretending to be men? Or think they are men? Or expect to be mistaken for men?

And check out the pose. It's not just the clothes - it's that infantile stance. It's a gross characterization of a woman as a juvenile sex object.

[–] TwoOnTheClock 74 points (+74|-0)

The only thing I'm personally offended by in the second picture is how age inappropriate the outfit is. Knee high socks with a sequenced dress? Maybe if you were 6 🙄 Seems like thinly veiled pedophilia projected in one's own image.

Otherwise, men can wear dresses all they like. Women worked hard to break down the gender stereotyping that kept us out of pants for so long. Why men are too fragile to do the same with dresses or skirts is beyond me.

[–] thewoods 63 points (+63|-0)

for real! like, i have no issue w men being gender nonconforming and wearing whatever, so long as they accept that they are male! but when they dress in hello kitty dresses and knee socks and call themselves women, i just...cannot deal.

[–] fallingwater 12 points (+12|-0)

they call themselves girls

[–] meranii 9 points (+10|-1)

I think it's also pretty telling that they call their appendages "girldicks" instead of womandicks.

They're both ridiculous concepts of course but one is disgustingly infantlizing language for what's simply adult male genitals, especially when it's usually said in a sexual context.

[–] pipoca 49 points (+49|-0)

As long as the person wearing it doesn't claim to be a woman then it doesn't bother me at all.

[–] sonic_fiXXation 44 points (+44|-0)

Isn't autogynophila about seeing themself dressed as the object of their desire? I think that says it all.

Also, hoodies and jeans are comfy. They can fuck right off with their misogynistic bullshit.

[–] Verdandi 4 points (+4|-0)

Ugh, jeans are NOT comfy. They're rough, stiff, and scratchy. They were meant for prisoners.

I'll take a soft, sensible trouser, thank you.

[–] darr 7 points (+7|-0)

Really! I live in jeans. They go with everything and don't need ironing. Each to their own.

[–] Mafalda 2 points (+2|-0)

I have the jeans with a lot of stretch and they are softer I think. Though after all thus WFH I may never go back to jeans and just wear yoga pants all day!

Yeah, this is missing some analysis of gender roles. They're not symmetric and equal. Adults can do what they want, but it's clear that the motives behind women wanting access to 'masculinity' (humanity, power, autonomy, strength) are going to be different from those of men wanting access to femininity (objectifying, submissiveness, dependence, weakness). This whole shit with femininity and masculinity being seen as naturally complementary and equally 'valid' does women no favors, it obfuscates reality and makes it harder and harder for us to point the real problems, and it's what queer and trans theorists argue for. I despise them all!

[–] boogerita 39 points (+39|-0)

Because they’re very vocal about their right to masturbate in those clothes and the accompanying age regression makes the mindset exponentially more polluted

[–] sensusquaeram 15 points (+15|-0)

Right? Oddly, I've never wanted to masturbate over a tie or a fedora. Strange, that. 😄

[–] boogerita 9 points (+9|-0)

I’ve legit worn clothes from the kids section before and it made me ZERO percent horny

[–] Peachy 5 points (+5|-0)

The TIM does look like the kind of bloke who jerks it to My Little Pony. Gross.

[–] Mikkal 37 points (+37|-0) Edited

Women's looks are policed by everyone all the time. Welcome to womanhood.

It's interesting that they phrase this as "offend you". I don't think the outfit on the right is "offensive" - I just can't place what kind of event it would be worn to. It's one of the first rules of fashion: Where is this person going?

The person on the left looks appropriately dressed for a casual event, school, etc. It wouldn't be appropriate in an office. It's normal, female, casual clothing.

The person on the right has no fashion sense, or could just be a rebellious Jr. High student. They look like someone trying to draw attention to themselves. I would expect the dress to be paired with tights and a pair of flats or dress shoes. Then I could see someone wearing it to the movies, out to dinner at a restaurant, maybe to a family Thanksgiving or Christmas. They way they drew the hair makes it look like it's really messy/not styled, and you'd want to have nicely styled hair with that kind of dress.

[–] Womancup 14 points (+14|-0)

I definitely wear the first type of outfit at the office but my work is 100% on the computer or occasionally the phone.

[–] Mikkal 9 points (+9|-0)

I couldn't dress like that even when my job was Customer Service. No jeans, no sneakers, blouses must have sleeves and not be see through.

My current place is super laid back which is nice.

[–] Womancup 7 points (+7|-0)

Yeah, I'm wearing sneakers and jeans now, as well as a hoodie. I have a nice blouse on, but that's it

[–] remquarqk 34 points (+34|-0)

If I, a woman, wore the second outfit anywhere, I'm pretty sure people would think I had some sort of mental illness.

[–] meranii 8 points (+8|-0)

Ikr, it's so dumb that they want to act like we all need to respect their "perfectly normal" gender expression when a grown woman running around in a mismatched sparkly toddler outfit would obviously be treated like a freak.

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