I've always thought that the dehumanizing language for women (birthing bodies, menstruators, gestators) was much more for TiMs' benefit than for TiFs. Frankly, if it were just TiFs pushing it, no one would give a shit. TiMs want to decouple womanhood from the female body so they can be "included".

That they don't see how offensive "birthing people" shows their poor understanding. That they don't see how "black birthing people" is even more specifically offensive is.........Do they understand black history at all?

The dehumanization becomes even more clear when the term "birthing bodies" is applied to Black women ("black birthing bodies"). "Ironic Wolf" has it right: the term harkens back to slavery, when Black women were "breeders" and slaveowners were keen to "increase their stock." (Black men were dehumanized by such terms as "buck," which also dehumanized them and reduced them to their reproductive capacity.)

I love that woman's response! I think it's the way we should reply to all of them, every time.

‘Black birthing bodies’ sounds like a term dreamt up by the Ku Klux Klan.

I’m white, but it makes me extremely uncomfortable. For me, I’d no more be able to utter such a phrase than more well known racial slurs. I don’t understand how people might not see that where a history of treating Black women specifically as property that could be used to breed more property exists, that terminology like this is even more horrific and insensitive.

Is it mostly white TRAs/misogynists who are doing this? I know that a lot of BM suck and are very sexist but I still can't imagine even an extremely misogynistic BM (except maybe a TIM, though I haven't yet heard it from Black TIMs either) referring to BW as "Black birthing bodies."

Good for her. I love her healthy boundaries and refusal to be redefined by someone who has no business to do that.

[–] pennygadget 24 points Edited

This is why White men go trans. If this guy were still presenting as "cis", his woke friends would tear him apart for talking over Black women about a Black women's issue. But, because he's a super mega oppressed trans-woman, he's above Black females in the hierarchy and can talk to them however he pleases

[–] crodish fujoshit 25 points

They're always clockable even from a small, low-res preview of a profile picture. Sex dimorphism is just THAT STRONG.

I was laughing at the way he has that short one side, long the other haircut (🤢) but all it does is emphasise his male-pattern baldness and fivehead.

[–] mrsmeyers 15 points Edited

Not black but it's plain to see white liberals have used gender identity to attack black people and other people of color and put themselves at the top of the oppression totem pole 🤷‍♀️ just like how blm is entirely self serving to make white people feel like they're definitely not evil and racist at best, or at worst using BLM and race issues to attack other white people with while usually being just as racist

EDIT: personally I've grown tired of the constant bids to oppression and the clout chasing that comes with it, I seriously do not have the time to be lectured by a fetishistic male in thigh highs just because other women have fooled themselves into believing he's oppressed because he said so people need to unironically check their privilege before opening their damn mouths

Yes, the gender crap is absolutely a way for relatively privileged people who are pissed off that a fraction of the conversation now doesn't revolve around them to regain some power. It's a way for straight white middle class people to shut down conversations and bully others. There's a huge majority of people who are compassionate and want to believe someone who says they're oppressed, but they're just being manipulated.

I've come to the conclusion that we need to just get rid of the oppression hierarchy altogether. Yes acknowledge that different people have had different experiences, but this stuff is a cancer on the left. It's totally unproductive. Everyone is walking on eggshells knowing that one wrong look and a creepy man in a miniskirt can cancel their careers.

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