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Men can compete in women's events "after completing one calendar year (12 months) of testosterone suppression treatment." There is no mention of testosterone levels or any other measures, so fencing is now wide open for a Lia Thomas situation.

The CEO has gone full in for transgenderism:

“It is critical that we protect the rights of nonbinary and transgender athletes in fencing,” said Phil Andrews, USA Fencing chief executive officer. “Even as we plan to conduct more scientific research into the physiological effects of gender transition as they pertain specifically to the sport of fencing, we remain unanimously and steadfastly supportive of transgender athletes having their place in fencing. To be clear, even as this issue evolves, our support of transgender athletes will not waver.”

The nonbinary policy is a bit confused. It essentially says that they must become binary again:

Nonbinary athletes are permitted to compete as the gender with which the athlete identified at the time of registration. However, if an athlete wishes to compete as a gender opposite from the gender associated with the sex assigned at birth, they must adhere to the guidelines for transgender athletes.

"USA Fencing Implements Transgender and Nonbinary Athlete Policy"

https://www.sportstravelmagazine.com/usa-fencing-implements-transgender-and-nonbinary-athlete-policy/

The full policy: https://www.usafencing.org/transgender-and-nonbinary-policy

Men can compete in women's events "after completing one calendar year (12 months) of testosterone suppression treatment." There is no mention of testosterone levels or any other measures, so fencing is now wide open for a Lia Thomas situation. The CEO has gone full in for transgenderism: > “It is critical that we protect the rights of nonbinary and transgender athletes in fencing,” said Phil Andrews, USA Fencing chief executive officer. “Even as we plan to conduct more scientific research into the physiological effects of gender transition as they pertain specifically to the sport of fencing, we remain unanimously and steadfastly supportive of transgender athletes having their place in fencing. To be clear, even as this issue evolves, our support of transgender athletes will not waver.” The nonbinary policy is a bit confused. It essentially says that they must become binary again: > Nonbinary athletes are permitted to compete as the gender with which the athlete identified at the time of registration. However, if an athlete wishes to compete as a gender opposite from the gender associated with the sex assigned at birth, they must adhere to the guidelines for transgender athletes. "USA Fencing Implements Transgender and Nonbinary Athlete Policy" https://www.sportstravelmagazine.com/usa-fencing-implements-transgender-and-nonbinary-athlete-policy/ The full policy: https://www.usafencing.org/transgender-and-nonbinary-policy

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“It is critical that we protect the rights of nonbinary and transgender athletes in fencing,”

Why isn't it protecting women important?

It might be the misogyny of the university I went to, but the fact I didn't learn about hard breast cups until the second semester and only the two top women had them, fencing isn't known for protecting women. I am disappointed they didn't at least appreciate geometry, as per my own post's rant, though.

FFS, does 'transitioning' affect your height, stride length or the length of your arms in some magical way? No, thought not.

I was a high level fencer. I had to fight to get one event segregated and included for the equal opportunity to compete. This is regression.

this is insane I don't know much about fencing but height = increased leg and arm lengh giving them an unfair lunge advantage.

will the women be able to use a longer sword to make up for it

[–] Lilith-Fair 12 points Edited

But they don't need to protect the rights of women I see. God this is all so fucked up.

ETA: I feel sick.

Maybe I'm glad I hurt my back and never made it very far in fencing... I really didn't expect them to jump on the transtrain, being such an overlooked and very classical sport. Unfortunately, it will be Liar Thomas all over again, but with different spices - we always had coed practices, and our top women were often as fast and talented as the top men in short spurts, HOWEVER, your body size makes the scoring zone for all swords. Our top man was 5'10" and rail thin, in foil he gave up what seemed like only a single inch of scoring space. We women had flattening bras with extra cups and padding (still ouch) so could never reach that level of "two dimensions." It's an odd consideration, but it sure the heck makes a difference.

Check out Olympic fencing, it's fun to watch with all the electronics, but the women are favored by coiled spring body types to attack fast, the men by being 2D and hard to hit. It's an obvious mismatch by just how much wire mesh you'd need for each!

Non-binary people will fence with whatever gender they identify with at the time they register. But I thought they didn’t identify as either sex, like you know, NON- binary. Methinks the men will probably claim they identify as women.