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Hi, everyone, amazingly the simple URL SheWon.org was available, so I snagged it. I can make a simple website that lists which women would have won what award if they had not been displaced by a man. But I am not a sports person. Is there anyone who could supply content?

Hi, everyone, amazingly the simple URL SheWon.org was available, so I snagged it. I can make a simple website that lists which women would have won what award if they had not been displaced by a man. But I am not a sports person. Is there anyone who could supply content?

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I've stickied your post so that we can keep the website up to date, and put together a meaningful historical record. Thanks for making it!

[–] DonnaFemina 1 points Edited

Excellent!

One that I think is important to include is Laurel Hubbard's win in the Pacific Games over Samoan weightlifters Feagaiga Stowers and Iuniarra Sipaia.

To me it's important because it has an extra angle most transwomen athlete stories don't: TRAs like to point to Samoa, among other countries/cultures, as an example of how cultures can honor "gender divergent" (or whatever the current term is) people. Here's a link of TRAs doing just that: https://outrightinternational.org/content/meet-samoa-champion-trans-rights-activist-roger-stanley

But the thing is... Samoan culture recognizes TIM and TIF as third and fourth genders, NOT as members of the opposite sex. You can't change from a man into a woman in Samoan culture.

And according to Samoa's Minister of Education, Sports and Culture, Loau Keneti Sio, it is not fair for a "fa'afafine" (the Samoan term for a TIM) to compete athletically against women. Hubbard was only allowed to compete against women in the Pacific Games because those games have to follow whatever rules are imposed by the Olympic Committee and other international sporting bodies.

https://www.samoaobserver.ws/category/article/45738

This is a very inconvenient case for TRAs who support letting TIM compete against women.

This is amazing! 👏

Thank you! Send any info you'd like to see posted!

[–] Owl 1 points

Thank you so much for doing this! Brilliant idea! I've just shared it on Twitter. https://twitter.com/LesbianOwl33/status/1478205986821136385?s=20

Would you consider changing the table header to "Rightful winner of" instead of "what she would have won" or something like that? Something with more strength to it maybe?

Awesome! Thanks so much for the promotion! I know we are missing many winners, so maybe I'll get some more info from your efforts.

And yes, I like your idea--let me ruminate on it for a couple of days! :-)

Good article here in Samoa Observer - Mr Gavin Hubbard has caused trouble before, denying Samoan weightlifter Feagaiga Stowers a gold medal at the Pacific Games 2019

https://www.samoaobserver.ws/category/samoa/45741

There’s a wiki page listing the medal winners for the women’s weightlifting competitions at these games and it shows, at the bottom of the table, that Gavin (so-called Laurel) Hubbard won medals in 3 competitions. The table shows the women who were knocked down to silver and bronze but doesn’t show who came 4th

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weightlifting_at_the_2019_Pacific_Games#Women's_results

OK, all of these are up now. If you ever find out who came in 4th, let me know!

Wonderful idea! I hope to help. To start, Emma Hilton posted this: https://twitter.com/FondOfBeetles/status/1406992665644830725

"Kuinini ‘Nini’ Manumua, the woman who was ultimately displaced by inclusion of Laurel Hubbard. She’s 21, and it would have been her first Olympics."

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