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I watched Leaving Neverland yesterday (I know I’m late to the party by a few years) and was wondering what everyone’s opinions are?

What do you think of the documentary itself?

Do you believe Michael Jackson to be innocent or guilty?

I have never known a celebrity to have more erm...passionate (or rabid) fans than MJ and so I recognise this may be controversial discussion.

I thought the documentary handled the distressing subject matter well. It was well put together and obviously hard to watch at times.

Personally I lean strongly towards believing the victims. I can’t believe any parent could allow their child to sleep alone in the same room (let alone bed) as a grown man who isn’t their father. Those parents were wilfully neglectful and stupid and were essentially pimping their sons out IMO.

I don’t buy the arguments that he was “like a child” or that his actions were not nefarious. He displayed recognisable patterns of grooming and pedophilia. Due to fame, blind adoration of the masses, and talent, he got away with it.

Saying all that, the documentary is one sided (nothing wrong with that) so I’m unaware of MJ’s defence or any surrounding context.

Ultimately we’ll never know for certain. To me it’s just another case of famous men getting away with depraved and disgusting crimes. Being elevated to godlike status because they have talent or charm (usually overhyped talent and charm at that)

Please share your thoughts, I’d love to hear them :)

I watched Leaving Neverland yesterday (I know I’m late to the party by a few years) and was wondering what everyone’s opinions are? What do you think of the documentary itself? Do you believe Michael Jackson to be innocent or guilty? I have never known a celebrity to have more erm...passionate (or rabid) fans than MJ and so I recognise this may be controversial discussion. I thought the documentary handled the distressing subject matter well. It was well put together and obviously hard to watch at times. Personally I lean strongly towards believing the victims. I can’t believe any parent could allow their child to sleep alone in the same room (let alone bed) as a grown man who isn’t their father. Those parents were wilfully neglectful and stupid and were essentially pimping their sons out IMO. I don’t buy the arguments that he was “like a child” or that his actions were not nefarious. He displayed recognisable patterns of grooming and pedophilia. Due to fame, blind adoration of the masses, and talent, he got away with it. Saying all that, the documentary is one sided (nothing wrong with that) so I’m unaware of MJ’s defence or any surrounding context. Ultimately we’ll never know for certain. To me it’s just another case of famous men getting away with depraved and disgusting crimes. Being elevated to godlike status because they have talent or charm (usually overhyped talent and charm at that) Please share your thoughts, I’d love to hear them :)

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Obvious pedophile is obvious. I can't believe there are still people defending Michael Jackson. How many more fucking red flags could there be? If he was some random non-famous pedophile, he would have done time. It's crazy that people can somehow force themselves to believe that all 5 admitted victims and their families are just lying about rape and abuse for shits and giggles.

This x 1000

People get swept up in idolizing MJ (and honestly pretty much every other public and even some private figures) and excuse his bs. He’s a pedo full stop. The evidence is too overwhelming and too damning.

But he also just comes off as a creep. He was a cute/sweet kid, but as he got older, his multiple surgeries and general Peter Pan like demeanor and strangely close relationship with children couldn’t be more alarming (even before accusations flooded in about him).

Yeah, he died when I was like 13 or 14, but my general impression of Michael Jackson was this creepy, weird person. I hadn't listened to his music and didn't have memories from his earlier years of stardom.

Even in his filmed interactions with the boys in the documentary, it was fucking obvious. There was this one video of him with the older accuser, James, doing a photo shoot. Their body language was not right. Even people who saw them on tour suspected something was not normal with him and that little boy. I don't believe the mom of that kid didn't know what was going on. I think she at least suspected, but she let it continue.