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I see that a lot of women are appreciating the series but I am just disappointed and sad. I started to think and it pisses me off that I can not come up with a single female character who is supposed to just be ugly, old, unhygenic or just generally unappealing to men, not one! The she hulk model is just a normal fit woman with green skin and model face (she is not even remotely as jacked as real culturist women!!!), nothing like male hulk who despite "being a monster" can be loved. I want a woman's character who can also "be a monster" or just ugly and still be loved. Never seeing that is just depressing. Maybe I am complaining too much but I feel burried about how high the expectations of beauty on women are placed, like they are so high we can not even get a likeable female character who is not sexually appealing in some way. This is especially unjust watching how male characters can look in whatever way (be it real ugly actors like Adam Sandler or Danny Devito or cgi creations like Hulk, Thanos, etc.) and still be interesting, are we ever getting the same?

I see that a lot of women are appreciating the series but I am just disappointed and sad. I started to think and it pisses me off that I can not come up with a single female character who is supposed to just be ugly, old, unhygenic or just generally unappealing to men, not one! The she hulk model is just a normal fit woman with green skin and model face (she is not even remotely as jacked as real culturist women!!!), nothing like male hulk who despite "being a monster" can be loved. I want a woman's character who can also "be a monster" or just ugly and still be loved. Never seeing that is just depressing. Maybe I am complaining too much but I feel burried about how high the expectations of beauty on women are placed, like they are so high we can not even get a likeable female character who is not sexually appealing in some way. This is especially unjust watching how male characters can look in whatever way (be it real ugly actors like Adam Sandler or Danny Devito or cgi creations like Hulk, Thanos, etc.) and still be interesting, are we ever getting the same?

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Watched the first episode today. Small spoiler below:

There's a scene where she sneaks into a bar bathroom to clean up, covered in dirt and some blood. Four women come into the bathroom and are basically like OH GIIIIRL WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU YOU SHOULD LEAVE HIM OR HER OR WHOEVER DID THAT TO YOU.

Abd then they proceed to...put makeup and a pink fur coat on her? Like if women were to walk into a bathroom and see some other woman beaten and bleeding their first instinct is not to call the cops or anything but to....apply makeup on her face?

And a woman wrote this show. Jesus.

Yeah I was incredibly annoyed by that scene. It felt like a moment made for a meme or something. Felt like a man wrote it somehow 💀.

[–] Fury 26 points

There's also the problem of the character being portrayed by Tatiana Maslany who told JKR to "Sit down and shut the fuck up!!!"

[–] crodish 9 points Edited

Okay I'm definitely not watching it now then lmao, the clips I saw were full of bad CGI and exactly what OP ranted about. It's probably going to be full of forced "feminism" shoved down your throat in every scene about GiRl pOwEr

Edit: Literally a scene where she turns up scuffed and dirty and the women's first reaction is to rush to make her look pretty. Really? That's the kind of "feminism" you want?

The clips look so terrible. The main character is just an empty vessel who runs around saying, "Blah blah Wage Gap blah blah A man asked me to smile this morning OMG blah blah man spreading blah blah GRRL POWAH blah blah I can't have flaws because I am empowered woman character blah blah!"

There’s a meme about how alien men get to be all different shapes and sizes and alien women all have the same sleek attractive frame. Think He-man and Shera, they’re twins but only He-man is the super buff looking one.

Women must remain attractive to men at all times no matter the cost. It’s vile and nauseating that we can never truly see ourselves with different body types in media. I hate it so much.

[–] Femina 3 points Edited

I just took a look in her... She does indeed look way too attractive to be a Hulk... Now HERE'S a good design for a good monstruous female character! : https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dragons-crown/images/c/c6/Hobgoblin--Chef2.gif

This one is good too! : https://i.ibb.co/9VjPrkC/unnamed-file-from-www-spriters-resource-com-png-17.png

Now THIS is how an actual good monstruous female looks like! :D

Let women look like ugly, rampaging, snarling beasts and still be heroes, cowards!

[–] [Deleted] 4 points Edited

I wanted to like this show because a lot of men are angry about it, but it is just...not good. It's actually borderline embarrassing.

I'm not familiar with the lead actress but she is, to be blunt, fucking awful in this. Maybe she's been better in other things. She appears to be over 40, which is nice to see in Hollywood rather than casting another 18-year-old to be romantically paired with someone older than her dad. But there are a lot of talented actresses who would have done better. And the CGI is just...God awful. She looks ridiculous.

It literally feels like it was written by 5 misogynistic liberal guys who spend half their life defending feminist porn and one woman who wouldn't dare speak up to them. It's just bad. Really bad.

I feel like I'm being too mean about it, but I'm so tired of these fake feminist, progressive shows where they refuse to even let the main female character look muscular because it might make men's dicks sad.

It literally feels like it was written by 5 misogynistic liberal guys who spend half their life defending feminist porn and one woman who wouldn't dare speak up to them. It's just bad. Really bad.

LOL this perfectly sums up why so many modern "empowered female characters" suck. They feel like they're written by Tumblr libfems & lib-bros who have never had to live in the real world

She looks like a video game character in a live action movie…is that how it’s supposed to be? If she weren’t green, she would look like a normal woman next to the Hulk. I’ve never seen these movies and won’t be watching this but i wonder if they’ll CGI her to be even bigger when she Hulks up for the contrast?? I think this She Hulk design looks pretty cool. Feminine but built like a monster truck lol. Hope I linked that right.

But I hear ya about female characters not being allowed to be anything but pretty and sexy. Seeing the female dwarfs in Rings of Power with not a hair on their faces really annoyed me. It’s book cannon and can easily be achieved with practical makeup/effects!

I wasn't planning on watching it anyway. I don't have time for another boring, libfem Mary Sue character who only exists to be a soapbox for her writers' political views. 🙄

Women are never allowed to be ugly, even ones that are supposed to be literal monsters!

This happened with GoT, too. Brienne is supposed to be ugly!! She's described as gangly, scarred, gap-toothed, with brittle hair, etc etc. Gwendoline Christie is gorgeous so it's hard to believe the whole "reverse beauty and the beast" thing that GRRM was going for. (She's super talented though so I can see why she was cast.) Heaven forbid we see ugly women on TV. Or even just average-looking women.

[–] ghoul2 5 points Edited

Me too I've been waiting for this thread. I was disappointed her thighs are not ripped. The whole point of the hulk is to be built as shit. She just looks normal. But large. I don't have a problem with her face being typically feminine/conventionally attractive but come on give her some muscle mass, it seems like the bare minimum would be giving her more muscles than this

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