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I'm making this post in honor of the new movie, which I saw yesterday and was absolutely beautiful! The animation was breathtaking, Uta was the coolest antagonist ever (all her songs are absolute bangers) and the ending made me cry!

Suffice to say, I've been obsessed with the anime ever since I was in high school. Monkey D. Luffy has long been a comfort character of mine and I celebrate May 5, his birthday every year. I've always had a sort of mama bear approach to him in which I wish he was real so I could give him a hug and feed him all the meat he could ever want and listen to his adventures on the grand line!

I used to have all the character songs on my playlist and my senior year of high school, I did an art project where I drew a stained glass window mural of all the straw hats

BUT I can't stand the way all the female characters are sexualized. They all have major cases of same-face syndrome, and their hourglass figures look almost grotesque with their three mm waists and massive boobs. Crewmembers like Brook and Sanji are constantly sexualizing Nami and literally no one on the crew tries to put a stop to it. Fortunately Nami usually beats their asses every time they get a little too pervy, but it never deters them for long, and Oda never bothers to explore the trauma/humiliation that comes with living in such close quarters with men who repeatedly make it clear that they think of her as only a sex object and would have no issue with violating her boundaries if she gave the chance.

Also, I'm not fully caught up, but in the Wano arc, I've heard that Oda wrote a TiF character who's apparently 'cast off the burden of her womanhood' as an attempt to mimic her male idol in every way, and it's treated as something badass rather than a tragic case of internalized mysogyny.

The worst part about all of this, is that I can't even raise a discussion of the inherent misogyny in the writing in any One Piece circles because I'll get dogpiled by legions of bearded woke-bros who'll proceed to mansplain sexism and shove copypasta after copypasta down my throat about how Oda is the best Male Feminist in the history of ever and I'm such a dumb and evil harpy for even daring to insinuate that his treatment of female characters makes me uncomfortable.

I'm making this post in honor of the new movie, which I saw yesterday and was absolutely beautiful! The animation was breathtaking, Uta was the coolest antagonist ever (all her songs are absolute bangers) and the ending made me cry! Suffice to say, I've been obsessed with the anime ever since I was in high school. Monkey D. Luffy has long been a comfort character of mine and I celebrate May 5, his birthday every year. I've always had a sort of mama bear approach to him in which I wish he was real so I could give him a hug and feed him all the meat he could ever want and listen to his adventures on the grand line! I used to have all the character songs on my playlist and my senior year of high school, I did an art project where I drew a stained glass window mural of all the straw hats BUT I can't stand the way all the female characters are sexualized. They all have major cases of same-face syndrome, and their hourglass figures look almost grotesque with their three mm waists and massive boobs. Crewmembers like Brook and Sanji are constantly sexualizing Nami and literally no one on the crew tries to put a stop to it. Fortunately Nami usually beats their asses every time they get a little too pervy, but it never deters them for long, and Oda never bothers to explore the trauma/humiliation that comes with living in such close quarters with men who repeatedly make it clear that they think of her as only a sex object and would have no issue with violating her boundaries if she gave the chance. Also, I'm not fully caught up, but in the Wano arc, I've heard that Oda wrote a TiF character who's apparently 'cast off the burden of her womanhood' as an attempt to mimic her male idol in every way, and it's treated as something badass rather than a tragic case of internalized mysogyny. The worst part about all of this, is that I can't even raise a discussion of the inherent misogyny in the writing in any One Piece circles because I'll get dogpiled by legions of bearded woke-bros who'll proceed to mansplain sexism and shove copypasta after copypasta down my throat about how Oda is the best Male Feminist in the history of ever and I'm such a dumb and evil harpy for even daring to insinuate that his treatment of female characters makes me uncomfortable.

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I watched it when I was younger but honestly it's not worth it. The female characters are treated like they're just boobs and fan service. It was better in the beginning but it when into the gutter long ago. I just can't ever enjoy most anime and manga anymore, certainly not shounen.

This is why most girls and women gravitate to manga and anime with only men in them. Haikyuu is one imo, there's barely women in the thing so they don't have to be subjected to sexualization and worse. Stuff like that just contributes to a skewed sense of self, you consume enough content that treats women and girls like shit an or sex object and it affects your thinking too.

Shounen anime is just like that, sadly. I feel the same about Bleach. Lots of interesting character designs, but only for the men. The women are sexualized to hell and back, and their manga cover art looks like it belongs to a hentai, Please clothe your ladies, Kubo.

[–] Turtlefuzz 4 points Edited

I've never been able to get into the anime because of the lazy female character designs. I saw this a few years ago, on how the author draws women:

https://comicbook.com/anime/news/one-piece-creator-comments-drawing-women-controversial-manga/

I think he later tried to walk it back and said it was a joke, but how much of a joke is it, really, when your female characters actually look like that?

Editing to add, I collect static and posable anime figures, and use an online database to track my collection. Whenever the database updates with a new One Piece P.O.P. figure, it's always so disgustingly male-oriented fanservice. It makes me sad for these fictional women.

Ooooh! What sort of figures do you collect?

I love small scale posables, like figma and I have some old Revoltech figures. I just love tiny dollhouse-sized toys and their accessories lol.

I have a few static figures from the Pop Up Parade line and love them. Perfect size and price. And I also love Banpresto and Sega prize figures, they're fun to get aftermarket.

My favorite anime is Tiger & Bunny, so the majority of my collection is from that show :D

I'm not a Gundam gal so I don't collect robots. But I do have some Gurren Lagann stuff lol

I've had some problematic faves in the past so I can relate. This is especially true of anime, most of which is immature and sexist. I look back at my Fairy Tale days and ask myself, "what the hell were you thinking?" all the time. It isn't even appealing to me anymore in the slightest. Meanwhile, positive female role models like Xena: Warrior Princess retain a timeless appeal.

I used to be into Fairy Tail for a while, too. But the author's made it clear that he's more interested in pandering to fanservice than actually telling a cohesive story/ focusing on character development. And does EVERY villain really need a BS redemption arc before getting shunted sideways and completely forgotten about?

I have a theory about redemption arcs. I think the redemption arcs are popular because they humanize awful people, and awful people are in the audience and sometimes doing the writing too. Especially men who are very likely to find those villain's behaviors relatable.

I swear this trend started with Naruto and even One Piece. We can get a backstory of a villain and they can still be a villain. What's up with redeeming every piece of shit out there?

Not Fairy Tail! That was truly egregious, I honestly preferred Rave Master(though it wasn't perfect either), which was by the same guy, he literally copied and pasted his own work with Fairy Tail. You're right on timeless works, a bit harder to find but no less special. I always loved Spirited Away, just as an animated example.

It can be done right, it's a good medium, it's just been ruined by men. I think there's some new good ones that have come out too, I haven't given up on it, but just like regular media I'm hella selective. I remember Ouran Host Club, if anyone else does here, and looking back at it and reading some analysis, it holds up way more then any shounen. In a way it deconstructed the host club thing that is popular in Japan(also currently there's a lot of talk about how predatory they are). A lot of the themes used were to show the characters individual issues and how they ran away from them, then eventually dealt with them.

I just could not tolerate One Piece post-timeskip at all, which is a shame because I still care about what happens and the show was a big bright spot for me in my childhood. The female characters were always sexualized to a degree but holy shit it got so much worse post timeskip with the absurd character design changes, I can't even take the women seriously because they don't feel like people anymore, their dreams and inner wants don't get as much attention as they used to and the fan service feels damn near constant every time they're on screen. Also tired of sexual harassment being played as a joke. I despise Brooke. Tolerated Sanji but he got worse over time too. Sigh...

[–] thisandthat 0 points Edited

Absolutely love One Piece.

Edit: I don't watch it, just read it, and imo its criticism is highly overblown. I do have problems with some designs, but I do pretty much everywhere. The messages are just too good and the story too interesting. I don't think anything can turn me off it.