[–] legopants 39 points Edited

Wtf is that comment that theyre defined by history? History sets us even MORE apart

Right? Tims never were owned by their husbands, not allowed to vote or own property, or you know live to the great age of ‘died in childbirth’. There’s literally nothing we’d have in common with them historically either.

We're barely mentioned throughout history because we were just property. Ironically the same men who erased now complain that we didn't contribute to society. The fucking clownery.

[–] Gladys_Kravitz 14 points Edited

didn't contribute to society.

If men weren't being cooked dinner they would have had to do it themselves, and never would have invented anything.

Women are the literal backbone of society and NOTHING can happen without us.

Yes, there were female inventors who also contributed. But I don't want to downplay how important care work is. Someone has to do it, we can't just not eat or not have clothes to wear or just not take care of babies, sick people, and the elderly. The women who had the opportunities to invent and create also could only do so because their labor was outsourced to lower class women.

I can't believe how much men devalue that kind of labor. It is what the entire world is built upon. Literally nothing can happen without us.

Yeah, there was a chilling section (for me) in Helen Joyce’s book about how when you trans historical women who e.g. dressed as men or pretended to be men in order to do the things they wanted to do but were forbidden, you are essentially making the case that, historically, “women” is everyone who went along with their oppression, coz anyone who bucked it was a “man” i.e. TIF. Ergo, historically, in Tra-world, our sex is by definition the compliant sex. Fucking insidious shit!