Were people always this fucked or are we exposed more to the fucked up people that have always existed? I know it's a bit of an overdone cliche but getting fall of Rome vibes. A society that openly approves of child mutilation and incest is not doing well.

[–] Eava 20 points Edited

I think social media has enabled fucked up people to be open about their fucked upedness, and be affirmed and encouraged in it, share it, normalize it, and spread it. In the days before social media, where would a TIM go to find a group of women who would enable his pregnancy fetish? Where would parents who want support transing their kids find it? Kai Shappley's mother said she found an Evangelical moms' Facebook group for transing their kids. Before, people would keep their fetishes and bizarre beliefs to themselves. Social media created a judgment and consequence free forum where anyone can say the sickest, craziest shit and find an echo chamber normalizing it.

[–] SecondSkin 11 points Edited

I think it feels like social media amplifies it, but sickos always found each other, long before social media existed. PIE and NAMBLA were around before the internet, cults have always found predators to join as well as victims. Throughout history there’s a never ending plethora of extremes that took hold because of how easy it is for predators to find their echo chamber. There are plenty of time periods where it was socially acceptable for predators to demonstrate their violence and depravity publicly.

None of that is new. I think people thought we were living in a more progressive, enlightened, liberated society. I think many people assumed many of the good fights had been won, that we’ve learned and moved forward, and most people will be good within a society that’s progressed this much. So it feels shocking that it’s gone this way. It feels like madness because people assume others think in fairly similar ways to them, they assume others are essentially decent and good because they are essentially decent and good. I think social media amplifies this illusion also. Props up what people want to see, illustrates the imagery people want to buy into. So when the realisation that people are not these good, decent people hits, the crash feels greater.

Yes,sick and twisted people have always existed. It was just much, much harder for them to find one another and convert other people. The level of social contagion just wasn't there. It was also much easier to safeguard children. Pedophiles and groomers weren't a click away on any phone, tablet or computer.