[–]LesbianIvy 21 points 5 hours ago They're just talking about sex not having kids. If you dont want to be with someone that can't birth a child that's ok but that's not what happened here.

That is so male manly, I just can’t

This dude is saying that it’s okay to reject someone for not being able to have kids but it’s not ok to refuse to fvck someone

I love it when they finally go for the men. Yessss go prey on them, give us a break.

Also I'm fucking DEAD at one of these dudes claiming gynecologists can't tell the difference 💀 their field of study is the female reproductive system and they think they can't distinguish the female reproductive system??

Lol from what I understand of neovaginas, even if the person has great visual results, the smell is nothing like a real vagina and is often extremely foul (like an unwashed belly button or fecal if intestines were used to make the passage.)

My kid put it this way: It shouldn't matter what someone is or has as long as it's the right person.

My bro, sometimes "what you have" is exactly why you're not "the right person".

[–] ArmedFemme 🪖🎖️ 8 points

Calling out transphobic biases and behaviors does not mean "hey you better sleep with me or I'll call you a bigot" anymore than pointing out that race fetishism is bad or that excluding an entire race from your dating pool is probably fueled by some implicit level of racism. I'm not saying that having biases means that your consent no longer matters. But it is still worth pointing those biases out and expecting people to recognize them. You can't help your immediate internal reactions to things, including how that affects your attraction. Even if it's hurtful. But you can take that as a sign to examine your beliefs more closely and be sure to recognize how they come to affect your other behaviors and minimize harm.

Why do they always compare sex to race? If you take the black/white/aisian/whatever else part of a woman away, she’s still a woman and has the same genitals as every other woman. If you take ‘trans’ away from a male he’s just male. He has separate genitals. This is such a braindead argument and makes me want to bash my head against the wall.

[–] ArmedFemme 🪖🎖️ 6 points Edited

My kid put it this way: It shouldn't matter what someone is or has as long as it's the right person. This guy sounds like not the right person for your friend. And I dare say not right for anyone on this subreddit.

Your kid is wise beyond their years. As a bi human, YES!! This sums up all my feelings.

Yes, as a bi person it applies to you. Not if you’re homo/heterosexual.

Edit: re-reading this I want to clarify that it only applies to you if you’re bi, but even then it doesn’t apply to all bi people. I wouldn’t blame you if you didn’t like inverted penis.

This exchange is . . . .wow.

]Icy-Yogurt-Leah 7 points 4 hours ago* I can tell you the difference between MINE and a natal one. I don't feel any pleasure from it. The lining in MINE is penile skin not mucosa. I was not born with it. The biome in mine is different from a natal one, there are many studies on this you can look them up yourself. MINE was created by a surgeon. MINE has horrific scarring from when it was created. MINE is a dead end, it does not lead to a cervix. MINE does not self clean or lubricate. MINE needs to be dilated for the rest of my life or it will close up. MINE could not expand large enough to push a baby out. Penetration is painful. MINE looks like testicle skin was left to resemble labia majora, it doesn't and yes I have seen the wall of vagina pictures. These and not directly vagina functions but part of the whole reproductive system. I cannot get pregnant, most cis women can. I do not menstruate. I do not produce eggs. I do not produce enough female hormones to maintain bone density and feminisation without HRT. Now you are going to come up with medical reasons that cause most of these in natal vagina, they are edge cases and rare for each one let alone all of them at the same time. Once you have your own you will realise it's not all sunshine and roses. MY neo vagina is crap, it's painful and doesn't work. I hope your experience will be different but that's my take. I SAID MY NEO VAGINA PEOPLE learn to read before you start arguing about MY opinion of MY body. permalinksaveparentreportgive awardreply

[–]LucyTheMLTrans Lesbian ~ HRT 01/06/2022 DMY 17 points 4 hours ago* 1. Some cis women struggle with feeling pleasure too, this is a completely natural variation. 2. While there is a difference in the lining, it does not feel different and no one would be able to distinguish between them truly. 3. Everyone has a different biome of bacteria and stuff can vary greatly woman-woman. 4. Why does it matter where it came from? 5. Cis women can get scarring on their vulvas too, some people literally get their clitoris torn in half during giving birth. 6. Cis women can also have issues with lubrication, some ladies can't get wet at all. 7. I am entirely sure there's some cis women who were born without a cervix. 8. Some cis women need to dilate after a certain age for the rest of their lives. Also, the idea of it "closing up" is a medical lie. It tightens, yes, but it's not a wound which heals and then closes up never to return. 9. C-sections exist for a reason. Sometimes natal vaginas can't push out a baby either. 10. Cis women can find penetration incredibly painful too and this is why clitoral masturbation is more popular. 11. Scrotal skin and labial skin are very similar. If one finds themselves unhappy with stuff, cosmetic revisions exist for a reason. 12. "I cannot get pregnant, most cis women can. I do not menstruate. I do notproduce eggs. I do not produce enough female hormones to maintain bone density and feminisation without HRT." again this is not a difference between neo and natal both can suffer the same issue 13. Being AMAB is sadly a fringe birth disorder some women have to suffer through. Luckily one can treat it with meds and/or corrective surgery if they so please.

Jesus. There's nothing that will penetrate their thick skulls, nothing. How much more can the post-op TIM say?!

What he does say is all true and I think he’s trying to warn other men: Mammals cannot change sex. The best that can be done is a mutilated simulacrum that doesn’t function and causes terrible suffering. From what I’ve read, this man is describing the “normal” experience for this kind of surgery. Aspirants to the same procedure would do better to listen. I really hate this timeline.

[–] no- [OP] 14 points Edited

Being AMAB is sadly a fringe birth disorder some women have to suffer through.

Oh my god, cope harder.

[–] hmimperialtortie 🐈🐈🐈🐈🐈 4 points

I nearly barfed just at “second belly button” (I find real navels gross, never mind butchered male bits).

[–] OwnLyingEyes 30 points Edited

...frankly there’s nothing more violent you can do to a girl who’s had bottom surgery than invalidate her vagina and say she’s unfuckable because her vagina is surgical...

Wow. Wooooow. Nothing more violent. Nothing.

Editing to add: all of the delusional dudes there saying NOT EVEN A GYNECOLOGIST CANT TELL THE DIFFERENCE, and so no one has to look up a "neovagina" to remind themselves...they're not even able to put them in the right place.

"nothing more violent"

Wow. Almost seems like a troll post but I doubt it. The delusion is off the charts.

We're entering a dark time when something that leads someone to experience narcissistic injury is treated as 'violence,' much less more violent than actual violence.

[–] LonelyKindred Jaded Tomboy 13 points

I'm pretty sure if a gyno saw a vag that looked like THAT on a real woman they would diagnose her with Several Things

Oh that gynecologist line infuriates me to no end. As you said, not even located in the right place. Not made of the correct tissue; doesn’t lead to a uterus, neither self cleaning or self lubricating. Not a muscle, the list just goes on and on.

Among other things all of this illustrates just how much genuine vaginas are hated and how little is thought of their miraculous function. It makes me angry but underneath it makes me sad.

It's dumb as shit, saying no is violence to these rapist pigs.

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