Welcome to TransLogic!
This is the Radical Feminist Circle to document the various illogical, incorrect, misogynistic, racist, and otherwise caustic rhetoric spouted from TRAs themselves.
The lies, misinformation, threats of extreme violence, and the dehumanization of women who dare speak up against this misogynistic, racist and conservatively homophobic ideology are legion. Trans activists' stochastic terrorism has already turned to real world violence against women and children.
Use this Circle to record what they say -In Their Own Words-
Note: this circle is also to showcase the lies, fallacies, and misogyny of men in general, whether or not they are trans-identified. This can include MRAs, TRAs, or just your average Joe.
Rules updated as of 8 Sep 2022.
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57 comments
Fuck this kid.
Seriously, FUCK YOU. You don't get to decide you're trans for less than a month and then ask your mom to remove something FROM HER BODY that has been there longer than you were capable of forming fucking sentences. You could be "trans" for fucking YEARS and that's still not any of your fucking business to request.
How fucking dare you. How fucking goddamn dare you! And fuck your cousin! Fuck YOU for letting your cousin scream at your mom! She raised you, you ungrateful little shit. She didn't deserve any of the shit you sprung on her. She's already doing her best to fucking accomodate your insane ass request and it still isn't enough. You don't give a shit about your mother, she's nothing but the slave that fed and clothed you and loved you since you were fucking concepted in her womb. Spoilt piece of shit. Take yourself out of the fucking family since you hate it so much. You don't get to sit there and DEMAND the world revolves around you. Especially not to your fucking MOTHER.
You were okay with someone screaming at your mother for not removing something she had for at least 16 years before you learnt about being fucking trans. And you felt happy about it. YOU are the monster here.
I will not feel sympathy if this piece of shit goes the full route for transitioning. Fuck her. FUCK HER. I hope she finds her new glitter fucking family and crashes and burns with them.
I would say the exact same and probably worse about a "MtF" dipshit pulling this crap so don't give me that shit. Assholes like these don't need more coddling or sympathy, that exactly how they became such entitled assholes to begin with.
Amen amen amen!
Besides, aren't TRAs all about bodily autonomy? It's her body, her choice!
It's more like, for TRAs, it's their body, their choice.
Also, it's your body, their choice.
That's how they see it.
Mom needed to kick every one of those shitheads out, and then blocked their asses for a few months. Or years in the case of the niece. Nasty little harpies.
“How fucking goddamn dare you” should honestly just be the tagline for this entire site, couldn’t have said it better myself
I love you, I would like to personally sign up to see all of your rage-filled takedowns of this bullshit!
Wtf, the cousin came after her aunt and drove her out of her own home?! And she has to make sure her forearm is covered at all times in her own home because her brat daughter will have a tantrum otherwise. And she already had depression before all this started. I can't imagine how much it's been worsened because of this shit. I'm glad her other daughter is on her side.
Both OP and the cousin are narcissistic abusers, and since both happen to have "queer" identities as well, I'm guessing cuz is also some flavour of TQ+, the ideology that attracts such people and encourages them to abuse others.
I disagree. AITA isn’t almost complete fiction. Yes, there will be people who will write fake stories but there’s no reason to believe that’s the bulk of the sub.
What evidence do you have for your theory?
IMO, the real interest of AITA isn't the posts themselves but how the comments respond to them, what the typical reaction seems to be. Fake or not, you can get the general feedback a certain demographic (redditors in this case) provides on an issue.
Yuup this entire post smells very fake
Why do you think that?
HA saw that, and the answers are AMAZING.
The thing I don't understand about "Deadnames". The thing that makes you trans is that you were not born a boy called Kai, so why is it so terrible and awful to acknowledge that you spent the first 15 years of your life as a girl called Amy? Without that you would not be any big deal. You're going to see and hear that name your whole life anyway. Is everyone going to have to change their name to accommodate your phobia?
In her perfect narc world; yes. These people aren't reasonable, the media has told them that nobody can tell them "no."
Archive for those who want the comments. Note how everyone rushes to affirm "his" gender even while calling "him" TA
https://archive.ph/AZ3mg
Edit: also, here are OP's fucking responses. Oh whoops I hadn't considered my mom was human. I hope she cringes the fuck over this period in her life and it haunts her for eternity when she gets older.
The cousin is also her "best friend" and it sounds like the cousin's family are groomers or at least supportive of their self-grooming.
https://archive.ph/YLupi
God, the entitlement. She didn' t even ask, just "do as I say".
If I were in that woman' s place, I would tell my daughter to go fuck herself if she told me something like that. If it bothers you, it' s your problem to deal with it, not mine.
People should really tell these assholes off instead of walking on eggshells for them. Even if it' s your kid.
She didn't even fucking consider her mom has her own thoughts and feelings. Just, "you need to remove it". Fucking hell. OP is a piece of fucking shit and I'm so sorry the mom has a daughter like her.
ESPECIALLY if it's your kid. if they are minors, you still have significant authority over them, and it's your right to them, to put them in their place when they misbehave. and this is misbehaviour.
I'm glad she is getting drug for filth in the comments but let's be honest. If this were a male calling himself a woman in the same situation the mom would have been considered the asshole for not pandering to him.
Plus there’d be some dipshit claiming that the mother’s tattoo makes him “unsafe”, without being able to explain why.
My thoughts exactly.
Use their bullshit against them; her mother gave birth to a girl with that name, so that’s part of her story. That’s part of her body. The daughter can do what she wants with her story in her body.
That poor momma.
Aaaaand the thread was locked 7 hours in for “rule violation”. Aka the AGP mods do not like thoughtful discourse on this subject.
Whatever happened to bodily autonomy and “living your authentic self”?
Rules for thee but not for me!
I’ve read so much AITA craziness that I must wonder if these stories are for real.
I think in most cases the basis of the story is true but the rest is complete fiction.
For this specific one, for example, I do think that this girl actually has a mother with a tattoo with her "deadname" on, she does want her mother to erase it, and she does feel entitled to decide what her mother should do on the matter, but I don' t think she actually said anything and definitely I don' t believe that her cousin threw that tantrum for her.
You’re not merely an arsehole, you selfish little brat, you’re what comes out of them.