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[–] furyosa MERF 78 points

When I was a child I remember being terrified when I first heard my mom screaming and crying in the bathroom. I went to check up on her to ask what was wrong but she explained that it was just feelings of euphoria after shaving and that one day I would experience the same. When my sister started crying and screaming in the bathroom I knew that she too had joined the ranks of shaving women. We threw a huge party for her and we just screamed into each other's faces over the cake in utter euphoria. I couldn't wait until my leg hairs got dark enough to warrant shaving. It was the best day of my life when the day finally came. The bliss was extraordinary. I look forward to the daily screams and cries of this exclusively ✨ womanly ✨ shaving ritual.

/s

We threw a huge party for her and we just screamed into each other's faces over the cake in utter euphoria.

I'm dead lmao

And then did everyone clap?

…and make out?

Because, ya know, they’re women and that’s what we do whenever we get together

Being the neighbour of one of these guys must suck so bad. You just want some peace and quiet after a rough day and then there's this guy screaming because he shaved his legs.

Because being a women means loving to perform femininity. I would scream and cry with shame and disgust if I held such regressive sexist ideas.

One contributing factor to me quitting shaving my legs is i hated feeling my pants touching me so closely so reading this is hilarious

[–] Lipsy #bornnotworn 27 points Edited

lmfaooo I'm a pacific islander, what is this "shaving your legs" thing of which you speak? 😂

(I don't even grow visible leg or arm hair... Just vellus hair on the limbs)

Tangentially related:
idk where the general sentiment of ovarit stands on Cardi B, but, I bet this post will be broadly appreciated around here.

How to PI women know they are women if they don’t shave their legs?

I can send some hair growth tonic you can put on your legs.

Then you can shave them and it won’t all be so confusing

[–] Lipsy #bornnotworn 2 points

Uhhuh. Try me🥰 You do that and i'll rub it on the prosthetic part of my right leg, just to annoy you right back. LUV YA.

To be fair, it’s a really good tonic so your prosthetic leg might affirm you as a woman who needs to shave

There is hope yet

[–] Lipsy #bornnotworn 1 points

I also just realized that if shaving legs makes any rando a woman (with lowercase 'w' this one time, for understandable reasons). then all the TIMs colonizing women's cycling are women. 🤷🏽‍♀️

...but then again, that would also make pretty much ALL competitive cyclists women. Which, in turn, would invalidate any reason for TIMs to invade female cycling divisions, because their own division would already just be a second womens league AKA themfriends-with-shaved-legs league.

I am overthinking this so hard ahah

re: P.I. Girls and our naturally baby-smooth arms and legs—Guuuuurl. If and when I should ever attend any sort of live convocation/meetup with a bunch of online radFems, I am terrified that I'll be mistaken for some libfem who not only DOES eliminate my leg hair, but is in fact meticulous about doing so perfectly.

I seem to recall the least hairy ethnicities are supposedly Pacific Islanders, then American Indians, then East Asians. Paradoxically, East Asians are also one of the least likely to undergo male pattern baldness.

Since I already went on a tangent, I thought it might interest you to know that of the three generalisable ethnic hair profiles, White people have the highest hair density, Black people have the lowest, and ‘Asians’ are somewhere in-between. Equally interesting to me is that ‘Asian’ hair tends to grow perpendicular to the scalp resulting in a circular follicle, Black hair tends to grow parallel to the scalp resulting in a flattened ellipsoid follicle, while White hair is somewhere in-between in growing obliquely to the scalp, which results in a rounder ellipsoid follicle.

[–] Lipsy #bornnotworn 3 points Edited

Equally interesting to me is that ‘Asian’ hair tends to grow perpendicular to the scalp resulting in a circular follicle, Black hair tends to grow parallel to the scalp resulting in a flattened ellipsoid follicle, while White hair is somewhere in-between in growing obliquely to the scalp, which results in a rounder ellipsoid follicle.

This is covered by hair-type classification—the system of twelve rough hair typologies, from 1A to 4C (there are A, B, and C types for each of the integers 1 through 4)—if you know about that. If you don't, but you have Black Female friends, they will probably be happy to explain at length (...haha, "length"! I'll thank you to laugh with me, not at me.)
Alternatively, if (like me) you just love staring at Women's hair😍🥰 then you can go to instagram and type in hashtags like #4c (or #4chair, even though you might think that's "for chair" if you don't know very many Black people ahhahaha!), #1a, #2c, etc.

The impossibly thick, ramrod straight, totally un-curlable hair that Japanese and Korean people have is the extreme archetype of type 1A hair.

White people tend to land in the middle of the typology. I think the majority of White people are type 2's (2A, 2B, or 2C), but White people's hair is all over the place—there are plenty of White ppl with type 1 hair, and there are even a handful of redheads, Ashkenazi Jews, and misc other White people with super tight, afro-esque type 4 curls.

Maya Forstater is a good reference point for type 3B hair.

Type 4C hair is the most extreme afro-textured type, fitting the description you've given here—but not all, or even most, Black ppl have 4C hair.

Thanks again, I’d forgotten about the Walker hair typing system! I’m a 1B if this link is to be believed: https://www.byrdie.com/type-1b-hair-5268063

While type 1A hair's primary concern is likely flatness, and type 1C's primary concern is usually frizz and poofiness, type 1B hair's biggest enemy is greasy roots.

Makes sense, growing up, I was always jealous of my peers with the truly pin-straight hair 😢 my hair is considered wavy and unruly where I’m from, if you can believe it 😅

What do you think Laetitia Ky’s hair type is?

I love random facts , these were appreciated lol now I know why I have so many tiny hairs compared to my WOC friends . I’m white so I just assumed it was adaptions to the colder climates lol

[–] Lipsy #bornnotworn 2 points Edited
  • I seem to recall the least hairy ethnicities are supposedly Pacific Islanders, then American Indians, then East Asians. Paradoxically, East Asians are also one of the least likely to undergo male pattern baldness.*

Not paradoxical. More hair on a man's head correlates quite well with less hair on his body. (Quick! Think of ethnicities that are stereotyped for their males losing hair at young ages...

[...]

...okay so you prly thought of, say, Turks or Iranians or other ppl from that part of the world right? Who are also more hirsute than others.)

Those correlations both have to do with men's testosterone level—or more exactly, men's levels of DHT (dihydrotestosterone), a metabolic derivative of testosterone, which correlates very strongly with both /1/ male-pattern baldness (so, the LOSS of head hair), and /2/ the growth and proliferation of body hair.
T and DHT are technically two different hormones, but in men with normal endocrine health they're strongly correlated to each other because, again, DHT is a product of the male body's metabolism of testosterone. (Estradiol is another one!)

That is very interesting! It jives with what I’ve seen with my Nigel, my ex, and my brother. All in their 40s. Nigel has not too much body hair, but still has a full healthy head of hair with barely any recession. Ex is hirsute on the body and nearly bald on top. My brother has a medium amount of body hair, and has a bald patch in the back but I wouldn’t call him bald by any stretch.

Next time a man complains about my unshaven legs, I'll just tell him that I identify as Pacific Islander and shaving would make me dysphoric, lol.

(I do have a lot of hair on my legs. I hope that doesn't mean I will get male pattern baldness. I tried shaving at 13 or so, but was saved from it by a boy who complained that I had as much hair on my legs as he, before I'd fully committed to shaving. Which alerted me to the unfairness of it.)

Fascinating...it seems like male pattern baldness is proportional to proximity to the Mediterranean Sea, something up with the saline there? 🌊

Paradoxically, East Asians are also one of the least likely to undergo male pattern baldness

It's actually not paradoxical, it makes perfect sense.

I screamed and cried the first time I shaved, because I was 10 and snuck a razor without knowing what the hell I was doing. My mom said it looked like a murder scene.

TIMs are just as capable of stealing a razor at 10 years old, but I don't think that they ever have stories like mine. So weird!

I was like 5 and I did this, I have no idea what even possessed me. I “shaved” a big red bloody track up my shin. Blood everywhere! I remember it being really big but I’m sure that’s just my horrified kid memory because afterwards mom just put a couple bandaids on it and I was fine (and she hid her razor!)

Dying over here at this real live man wistfully reflecting on the time he shaved his legs two years ago and nutted all over himself like he's Rose from fucking Titanic lmfao

I dont even scream and cry with joy after one good O - needs more to make me lose my mind like this.

Gender norms are a social construct and aren't real.

Anyways, here’s an an example of how gender norms affirmed my gender.

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