American Conservatives truly hate women. Women aren’t equal to deserve body autonomy.

"miscarriage loophole" fucking hell not a phrase i ever expected or want to see.

do they not realise how many pregnancies end in miscarriage? and how distressing it is? its not a fucking loophole its a natural, and often devastating, occurrence.

[–] ghoul2 4 points

It's not really common knowledge for young people and men I think - it definitely wasn't taught in my early 2010s high school sex ed, and I didn't know until I started reading mom forums one day at like age 21 and saw people "praying for a sticky baby this time" or discussing chemical pregnancy.

[–] WatcherattheGates 34 points

Horrifying. But the death penalty should be applied to the person who inseminated a woman who did not want to be pregnant. I think that would stop abortion in its tracks, don't you? Occam's Razor and all that?

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[–] eyeswideopen 10 points

The fact that the forced birthers don't give a shit about providing support to children and their mothers after birth and that GOP reps actively vote against such benefits just shows it's all about punishing women for daring to have sex without regret or guilt. It's even more obvious when we look at the demarcation forced birthers make between IVF and non-IVF embryos. Embryos outside a woman = non-people. Embryos inside a woman = people.

[–] Eava 5 points

Newborns don't end up in foster care, and the vast majority of children in foster care are not available for adoption, family reunification is still being considered. Years ago, before I got married and thought marriage wasn't going to be in the cards for me, I seriously investigated adopting a child in foster care. I did not care about race, but I did not think I could adopt a child with more than moderate physical/emotional/learning disabilities. I would have to continue working in a very demanding career and knew I could not keep my job and parent a child with significant special needs. I wanted to adopt a child younger than 6, would have preferred a girl but was open to either sex. There were no available children in the national database that were not part of sibling groups, usually with an older siblings with more severe disabilities. I have friends who were foster parents who eventually adopted two sisters they were fostering. The girls were not initially available for adoption. It took years before they were allowed to adopt them. It was really hellish, they kept giving the mother chance after chance to get her life together, then they were going to split the girls up and one sister was going to go to her paternal grandparents (they have different fathers). Then finally they terminated the mother's rights (I believe the fathers' had been terminated previously) and decided it was in the girls' best interest to stay together. But my friends were on an awful roller-coaster for years, as were the girls. Most people are not equipped to adopt children from foster care, it is a broken system and most children have needs few people will willingly take on.

There are plenty of couples and even single people who are ready, willing and able to adopt a healthy newborn. I know couples who waited over 3 years to adopt a newborn. The fact that there are many children in foster care has very little to do with the demand for newborns to adopt. I have no doubt there are powerful forced adoption groups behind so much of the anti-abortion movement. They don't want these women raising the babies, they think they are not worthy to be mothers and incapable of raising "godly" children. They want children to raise as warriors for Jesus.

Newborns don't end up in foster care, and the vast majority of children in foster care are not available for adoption, family reunification is still being considered. Years ago, before I got married and thought marriage wasn't going to be in the cards for me, I seriously investigated adopting a child in foster care. I did not care about race, but I did not think I could adopt a child with more than moderate physical/emotional/learning disabilities. I would have to continue working in a very demanding career and knew I could not keep my job and parent a child with significant special needs. I wanted to adopt a child younger than 6, would have preferred a girl but was open to either sex. There were no available children in the national database that were not part of sibling groups, usually with an older siblings with more severe disabilities. I have friends who were foster parents who eventually adopted two sisters they were fostering. The girls were not initially available for adoption. It took years before they were allowed to adopt them. It was really hellish, they kept giving the mother chance after chance to get her life together, then they were going to split the girls up and one sister was going to go to her paternal grandparents (they have different fathers). Then finally they terminated the mother's rights (I believe the fathers' had been terminated previously) and decided it was in the girls' best interest to stay together. But my friends were on an awful roller-coaster for years, as were the girls. Most people are not equipped to adopt children from foster care, it is a broken system and most children have needs few people will willingly take on. There are plenty of couples and even single people who are ready, willing and able to adopt a healthy newborn. I know couples who waited over 3 years to adopt a newborn. The fact that there are many children in foster care has very little to do with the demand for newborns to adopt. I have no doubt there are powerful forced adoption groups behind so much of the anti-abortion movement. They don't want these women raising the babies, they think they are not worthy to be mothers and incapable of raising "godly" children. They want children to raise as warriors for Jesus.

[–] firebird 15 points

A clump of cells that isn't in any way capable of living on its own yet should not be punished for its father being a rapist (even though it would never even know) but the woman carrying it should, apparently. They might as well outright say that they only care about the embryo because it might be male.

[–] Seven 18 points

I’ve already told my therapist that if i ever got raped and forced to bear the fetus, with no possibility of terminating the pregnancy, i’d fucking kill it as soon as it was born. This is horrible, but even the hypothesis of being raped and then impregnated against my will send me in a HUGE meltdown. Imagine then the state of my illness after 9 months of not being able to take my meds and all the post-partum depression shit. That if I’d be able to survive this whole thing. And I live in a country which abortion is illegal and any sterilization is HIGHLY bureaucratic and hard.

[–] carpetplaydohx2 8 points

We need to run more female candidates, and we need to vote more women into office. Because the person who is forcibly inseminating women is the person who should bear the consequences for the unwanted pregnancies rather than the person who is fucking carrying a pregnancy that could cost her her life, her livelihood, her happiness, her financial stability -- everything.

Men are never held accountable for any of their actions, and it's long past time for that to change.

[–] Maplefields [OP] 3 points

Unfortunately, I found these comments to a video of a woman in office who’s not pro-choice. https://youtu.be/h5JcJH_SZwU

The only reason she argued for the rape loophole is because it happened to her. She doesn’t recognize all other evidence of people saying abortion restrictions have decreased their standard of care (probably because if she didn’t experience it first hand, then it must not be true).

Here Comes The Misogyny American Conservatives truly hate women. Women aren’t equal to deserve body autonomy.

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