Welcome to TransLogic!
This is the Radical Feminist Circle to document the various illogical, incorrect, misogynistic, racist, and otherwise caustic rhetoric spouted from TRAs themselves.
The lies, misinformation, threats of extreme violence, and the dehumanization of women who dare speak up against this misogynistic, racist and conservatively homophobic ideology are legion. Trans activists' stochastic terrorism has already turned to real world violence against women and children.
Use this Circle to record what they say -In Their Own Words-
Note: this circle is also to showcase the lies, fallacies, and misogyny of men in general, whether or not they are trans-identified. This can include MRAs, TRAs, or just your average Joe.
Rules updated as of 8 Sep 2022.
Posts can be removed by mods for any reason for the health of the community including ones that don’t land or are confusing.
Tip: If you aren't sure where a post should go, check out o/ItsAFetish and o/Radfemmery to decide whether or not those would be better circles to post in.
Rule 1: Appropriate Posts
Screenshots and outside links are allowed. The preferred format is a screenshot as the post with an archived link for the screenshotted information in the comments.
Accepted outside links include: research papers, Imgur links, links to other photo hosting sites, archive links.
For Twitter, please screenshot the tweet/thread rather than linking directly. Utilize the archive function and imgur.
NO direct linking to TikTok, Reddit, YouTube, or misogynistic accounts (i.e. Blaire White or Contrapoints' Youtube channels).
NO genital pictures, including neovaginas and neophalluses. Mastectomies and breast implants will be taken on a case-by-case basis. NO MEDICAL PICTURES OF MINORS ARE ALLOWED
NO text posts or copypasta.
Rule 2: The NO List
NO misogyny, racism, sexism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, ableism, ageism, colorism.
- NO slurs: No n-words, misogynistic slurs (ex: bitch, slut, terf, cis), t-slurs or their derivatives (ex: trunacy, troon, Timmy, Timothy)
NO debating. Take debates to other circles. Do NOT debate tenets of various philosophies here. No derailing or sealioning. No DARVO.
NO posting about minors.
NO template gripes.
NO conversion therapy (aka "genital preferences are transphobic") or other right-wing, conservative talking points allowed.
NO joking about any and all illegal activity that could actually happen
NO talking about downvotes. For the love of all that is female, STOP talking about downvotes. Mods are sick of it. No griping about how many downvotes your comment or post got, or another person's comment or post got. Those comments will be deleted even if they accompany otherwise good commentary.
Rule 3: Redactions
Reddit names do NOT need to be redacted, neither do Chapo Chat names, etc.
Do not redact the Twitter handles of TRAs and misogynists.
Verified users are always fair game.
FACEBOOK NAMES NEED TO BE REDACTED. DISCORD HANDLES NEED TO BE REDACTED.
We do NOT protect misogynistic men and their sycophants. Record any and all misogynies.
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21 comments
Yeah but doesn't that only apply to women?
But very few TIMs have genital surgery. Most, like the guy in the OP, still have all their original plumbing intact.
Moreover, during the process of male arousal and emission that ends in ejaculation and orgasm, the male urinary tract closes off where it exits the bladder - which is way upstream of the urethral opening at the tip of the penis where urine would leak out. Also, as it exits the bladder, the male urethra goes through the prostate gland - and is fed into by the male ejaculatory ducts leading to the seminal vesicles via the vas deferens. The prostate and seminal vesicles are the glands that make the precum that clears out the male urinary tract and the seminal fluid whose purpose is to transport sperm from the testes through the male urethra and out the tip of the penis.
This makes the male urethra anatomically and functionally very, very different to the female urethra. Due to the very common problem of prostate enlargement, which every guy after 50 has to deal with, the urinary tract issue that males struggle with is inability to empty the bladder and urinary retention - which is a problem opposite to the sort of leakage that females commonly experience.
Even when TIMs have genital surgeries that remove their balls, invert their penises, shorten their urethras and relocate the urethral opening to the fauxlva, they still keep their prostates, ejaculatory ducts, seminal vesicles and vas deferens all in place. And their bladders too. This makes TIMs develop the same exact problems with urinary retention that all guys go through due to prostate enlargement. Plus, it suggests to me that whilst they no longer make sperm, they most likely still make all the other elements of seminal fluid in their prostates and associated organs when they are sexually aroused. If that's the case, then in TIMs who have had genital surgery, the spermless seminal fluid would come out of the end of their shortened urethras in exactly the same way that semen came out the tip of their penises prior to surgery. Because there's no other place for said fluid to go.
I am sure that many TIMs who get genital surgeries end up with messed up urinary tracts and with urinary issues as a result. Some no doubt have incontinence. But because their urinary anatomy remains so completely different to female anatomy, the post-surgery problems they develop won't be analogous to the urinary incontinence problems females experience. Females and males both have bladders and urethras, but only the male urethra is threaded through the prostate gland and connected to additional ducts and glands whose purpose is to make seminal fluid.