This makes me sad 22 year old taking T for 5 years uses cane and is insulted by nurse suggesting T could be to blame

"Doc, I've been taking 15 shots of vodka a day since I was 25. I'm 45 now and my skin and eyes are suddenly yellow. What could it be?"

Funny how all those cigarette smokers who died of lung cancer were able to smoke for decades without coming down with cancer... until, that is, they finally did.

When another poster recommends that she invent symptoms to get the medical attention she feels is her due, she says that she draws the line at lies of commission coz she doesn't want to get sent for needless costly tests or end up being misdiagnosed. But lies of omission are fine with her if she thinks they will help her get her way:

I am no stranger to not telling doctors the full story to get literally any help.

She sounds so ignorant. So what, she's been on this dose of testosterone for four years? Boys often are on the same dose of natural testosterone for four years or even longer before they start growing beards. It's called puberty. The effects don't happen immediately.

Why would it be different with the effects she doesn't want?

And to so blatantly disregard the opinion of a medical professional ... wow.

Is it only me or does it sound like the doctor has seen many more TIFs, and just lost patience with them recently, hence sending them to the endocrinologist?

I'd imagine a doctor who only sees this for the second time would have asked more questions than just "Do you take testosterone?" For someone to develop a prejudice they have to either hear the same thing through media a lot (certainly didn't happen here, media cover it up), or to have personally experienced it a lot.

People are prone to prejudices because they save time. A man who has a knife stuck in his back could have back pain due to completely unrelated issues, but the most likely explanation is the knife.

And while doctors shouldn't immediately jump from "Diabetes type II?" to "Clearly you must be overweight, lose weight, that will solve it", it is understandable why they do it, as in like 90% of cases, that's exactly how it is.

Someone who has chronic testosterone poisoning could theoretically have Long Covid, sure, but it being due to the testosterone is much more likely. Heck, even if it is Long Covid, it might be related to the breast-binding.

(Perhaps TIFs will do something for science, at least? The production of excess testosterone in the adrenal glands in women hasn't been studied nearly enough, and fatigue can be caused by chronic stress and hyperactive adrenal glands, so ... perhaps all those women dosing themselves with artificial testosterone will allow some insight into those health issues? Not that the possible scientific findings would ever have justified this large-scale human experimenting ... and it is done even without attempting to find out anything whatsoever.)

She's becoming a teacher! "I'm in my senior year of my education program - one year from now I'll be teaching elementary school kids." (from a different thread, but same person).

More to the point, it's standard practice for doctors to tell patients that they need to see the doctor who has prescribed a medication for any problems that medication might be causing.

I've even seen them argue with others online that "cis people don't have problems from their hormones like this!"

Just goes to show how totally self-absorbed and myopic they are. If they could see beyond their own mirrors and selfies, they'd understand that girls with classic CAH and women with PCOS, LOCAH, endocrine tumors and certain rare tumors that arise during pregnancy do indeed "have problems from their hormones like this." Millions of people have disorders and dysfunction of metabolism due to hormone problems. Have TIFs never heard of conditions like diabetes, insulin resistance, Hashimoto's, liver failure and disease-related pancreatic insuffiiciency?

The horrible longterm health histories and shortened lives of the former female athletes in East Germany who were doped on androgens during their pre-teens, teens and early adult years in the 60s, 70s and 80s certainly illustrate that "cis people" of the female sex who take large amounts of exogenous anabolic steroid hormones suffer many ill effects from it.

Their bewilderment makes sense in the context of how much they've been lied to about what the opposite sex hormones and surgeries actually accomplish...and what they don't. A lot seem to convince themselves that they've literally left their 'birth sex' and physically changed into the opposite, and are confused and angry when material reality bursts their bubble. See also: TIMs trying to rationalize 'stealthing' as their sex being something they left in the past and something that should be no longer relevant to the people whose sexual orientations they're attempting to violate.

American Girl jumped the shark when they started getting rid of the historical characters.

Oh, no. It used to be so wholesome.

Interesting that she's edging away from "man" to."gender neutral". There seems to be a TM to NB pipeline for women as well as a NB to TM.