I was browsing this circle and I noticed that there was a some anti-vegan sentiment as well as a lot of easily and already debunked anti-vegan rhetoric being repeated here, and that at least one user was trying to promote meat-eating (carnism) and even went so far as to say that women were not suited to veganism, which is false.
I realize that there is a "no debate flair", but the issues I mentioned were present on a meme-flair'ed post, and I don't think a post can have more than one flair, and speaking for myself I think it's annoying that vegans can't even post memes without these kinds of comments showing up.
On other vegan fora on the web, like reddit (I hate it but this was one thing I liked), there is a separate space for meat-eaters to challenge veganism and to promote their diet over ours, or to simply ask questions, and so on). I realize Ovarit is still a smallish site and that the veganism circle is a very small (for now) part of it, so a separate debate circle is not practical. But I do think there are other solutions that may work better.
As vegans, and especially as vegan women, we are used to having our choices and ideas belittled or dismissed, or to being talked over or even outright lied to. I've often seen vegan spaces online as a way to get away from the ubiquity of carnist rhetoric that we are surrounded by, as well as by outdated health information, if not purposely false info. It can be cathartic and freeing to be able to get away from all that and be with like-minded people, even if only online (a huge part of the appeal for Ovarit).
I am not proposing to ban people who eat meat or feminine protein products, but I do think that it should not be promoted in this circle anymore than use of pornography should be promoted anywhere on this site. I do not think mentioning consumption counts as promotion, but I do think that talking about veganism as being unhealthy and not suited to women is the sort of thing better discussed on it's own debate-specific post, not posts for vegan or vegan-aspiring women who just want to chill with other vegan feminists.
I would be in favour of having a 'no promoting carnism' (this includes consumption of feminine protein products) rule for o/vegan where the exception is debate/question posts and to maybe redirect users to create their own post with a debate flair (mentioned below) and link it to the user they disagree with. An alternative to the current 'no debate' flair would maybe be to change the rule to have a debate flair that invites debate rather than one flair that exempts a post from debate. I also would be in-favour of having maybe a weekly or monthly meta-post for questions and debate about veganism.
If anyone thinks this is unreasonable/too extreme, feel free to let me know. I still go to other vegan fora but I do notice that gender ideology occasionally leaks in and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth, plus some vegans sadly are misogynists, even though that's not very vegan of them.
In conclusion, I'm vegan btw.