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[–] bellatrixbells 4 points (+4|-0)

LOL

"They think their being as females, because they have ovaries, is more real than my being as a trans woman. But I am as much a woman as they are. "

It is. One is a biological reality. The other is in your head and it doesn't make you a woman. It means you wish to be a woman.

"Their womanhood comes from their genes, gonads and genitals (3G)- or if they have variation of sexual development, from their desire and societal acceptance. My womanhood comes from my being a trans woman."

So you admit that your womanhood rests on nothing else than a subjective feeling and a self applied label which you cannot even define.

They really don't get it, do they ? The very fact that they think they're the ones who get to define women, define our boundaries, and that they "need women's spaces" instead of even thinking of making up their own fucking spaces is proof that they have no consideration for us. They're not women. Never were. Never will be. Piss off.

[–] IronicWolf 6 points (+6|-0)

‘Trans women are in women’s spaces already’

Hence why people are talking about the need to protect single sex spaces and how to deal with the tension between transpeople living life on their terms and erasing women’s boundaries or spaces.

The author is stalking this discussion btw.

[–] bellatrixbells 1 points (+1|-0)

I know. He added a part about poop soup that comes from a comment above.

I know some trans women who are not poop, but this one guy is one hell of a bugger.

[–] crlody 5 points (+5|-0) Edited

If I were not trans, I would not exist.

And he says our ontology is deficient 😂

[–] bellatrixbells 2 points (+2|-0)

I'm sure many of them are crazy about Tinker Bell.

That might explain it.

[–] Nasrin 15 points (+15|-0)

“Ovarit” is a forum set up to hate on trans people.

Yes, that's what I'm all about over in the gardening circle with my plant pictures, articles, and hopefully helpful advice to others who want to grow plants... gardening to harvest a bushel of trans hate!

Trans women are in women’s spaces already, but trans excluders pretend that we are not

No one is pretending you aren't invading women's spaces, that's why we built a space for women that won't cave to demands we include men in every discussion...?

[–] salty-tomorrow 4 points (+4|-0) Edited

Trans women are in women’s spaces already, but trans excluders pretend that we are not

No one is pretending you aren't invading women's spaces, that's why we built a space for women that won't cave to demands we include men in every discussion...?

Right? That’s the whole problem: they’re already in our spaces!

[–] [Deleted] 9 points (+9|-0)

I think it's a reach to call this press. More just like one man's whining and only a couple TiMs in comments crying about how this is just like racism (It's not. Stop comparing black women to actual men, you imbeciles.)

[–] InvisibleWoman 9 points (+9|-0)

Until very recently, the name the psychiatrists used was “gender identity disorder”, seeing our gender as a medical problem. They would cure us of it, if they could, and would have found out how, by now, after decades of interactions with us.

Yes, just like they know how to cure PCOS, endometriosis, personality disorders, eating disorders, depression, PTSD, most genetic disorders, cancer, ALS etc etc etc

Because doctors can cure everything and they most definitely have your best interests in mind.

[–] kyria 1 points (+1|-0)

IKR? it's almost as if there's more money in keeping us sick and drugged up.

[–] InvisibleWoman 1 points (+1|-0) Edited

And almost as if cures amd treatments for complex conditions are super hard to figure out...

[–] Turtlefuzz 7 points (+7|-0)

I was going to quote the choice illogical parts to rebutt them, but then I realized I would have to quote the whole article lol

[–] Medusa 4 points (+4|-0) Edited

Archive link: archive.org

(I can't access archive.is at the moment, if someone else can archive it there and drop a link I'd appreciate it.)

[–] lucretiamott 18 points (+18|-0)

"Their womanhood comes from their genes, gonads and genitals (3G). My womanhood comes from my being a trans woman."

TRANS-lation: They're women because they're female, I'm a woman because I'm a man.

[–] OatsNeckties 11 points (+11|-0)

It’s not the strongest of arguments when you complain that there are rules against slurs and dehumanisation. Ok though, the belief that saying trans women are male is transphobic is sincerely held, please explain... oh you’re a woman because you feel like it? Oh. How do we tell you apart from someone who says he feels like it but doesn’t feel like it?

[–] PotatoParameter 26 points (+26|-0)

A group of 3G women are happy to include intersex women, but not trans women. Why ever would they organise without trans women? Because they want to exclude trans women permanently. As well claim a right of whites to organise as a race-class.

Woah there, get off of your slippery slope.

This snippet gave me so much mental whiplash omfg. "Why do women want to organize without males? Because they want to exclude them for no good reason! And they're just like racist white supremacists!"

Bro, intersex women are included and you're not because intersex women are physically, biologically, and socially women. You aren't, and people will pretend that you're socially the same as women. God.

[–] Lawful 16 points (+16|-0)

It always smacks me in the face a little when they describe the oppressed class wanting spaces away from the oppressor and then go "just like racist white people!!"

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