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(Posted in the general women's circle because ongoing KF updates were clogging up other ones. Hope it's OK to put here.)

I checked Josh's Telegram to see if he had anything new to say about the status of the website. He posted this picture and then a one-line, cryptic statement:

I have had an extraordinarily promising phonecall and I am filled with unbridled optimism.

I wonder what it is. Maybe he's not revealing yet, so as to not jinx whatever he's feeling upbeat about. Maybe it's something to do with bringing it back online. Maybe it's an interview to correct the record and clear his name (Tucker Carlson?) Legal representation and a lawsuit against Cloudflare?

Glenn Greenwald was tweeting last night, furious about some of the same things Josh talked about when he brought up "the cathedral". Keffals and Cloudflare are screenshotted in his thread of people he's angry at. So Null and KF are getting some, at least moral support from mainstream journalists who've been at the bitter end of the crybullies.

(And Jesse Singal, even though he weasels out of defending KF per se, has had it up to here with the planned campaign against Substack. Parker Molloy was tweeting about Substack being a "hate site," so Singal dug up receipts to show that Molloy had a whole blog post with a roundup of favorite Substacks. Hypocrisy is brought to you by the letters TRA.)

But I digress. I wonder what it is that's behind this Telegram post. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

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*(Posted in the general women's circle because ongoing KF updates were clogging up other ones. Hope it's OK to put here.)* I checked Josh's Telegram to see if he had anything new to say about the status of the website. He posted [this picture](https://i.postimg.cc/XYDnF99B/kf-telegram-2022-07-09.jpg) and then a one-line, cryptic statement: > I have had an extraordinarily promising phonecall and I am filled with unbridled optimism. I wonder what it is. Maybe he's not revealing yet, so as to not jinx whatever he's feeling upbeat about. Maybe it's something to do with bringing it back online. Maybe it's an interview to correct the record and clear his name (Tucker Carlson?) Legal representation and a lawsuit against Cloudflare? Glenn Greenwald [was tweeting last night](https://archive.ph/s8SH7), furious about some of the same things Josh talked about when he brought up "the cathedral". Keffals and Cloudflare are screenshotted in his thread of people he's angry at. So Null and KF are getting some, at least moral support from mainstream journalists who've been at the bitter end of the crybullies. (And Jesse Singal, even though he weasels out of defending KF per se, has had it up to here with the planned campaign against Substack. Parker Molloy was tweeting about Substack being a "hate site," so Singal dug up receipts to show that Molloy had a whole blog post with a roundup of favorite Substacks. Hypocrisy is brought to you by the letters TRA.) But I digress. I wonder what it is that's behind this Telegram post. I guess we'll find out soon enough. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] ghoul2 Ghost w/the most 6 points

Reading in these comments that Archive.org and archive.today are taking out their kiwifarm archives means they'll ultimately never have proof of what things were actually said on the site. Like that means the incriminating evidence of the bad things, the receipts of what people are saying, are also gone. Like... then it's just people's word against each other

And I'm like the last person to defend some of the vile shit I saw about women on KF. But nobody's taking down 4chan are they?

There’s a huge difference between hating what someone says and defending their right to say it. It seems like nobody remembers this concept? What was the saying? Oh, I may not like what you have to say, but I’ll defend your right to say it. (Something like that.)

Some theythem got all of the kf archives taken down off of wayback machine, btw... best to use archive​.ph from now on

The trigger was probably pulled by Taylor Lorenz's uncle, who is a higher-up in the echelons of Wayback Machine.

https://dicktracyonline.substack.com/p/who-is-taylor-lorenz

They really are going after everything. Fucking christ. Oppressed my ass

Not sure archive.ph is going to be any better really. If one is really serious about keeping stuff, then you keep it on a physical device that you own. (Or if you're really truly serious, print it out . . . . . . . )

Yeah, I have a small quantity of stuff that's most important to me backed up in hard copy.

There are so many things I hate about this timeline, but the fact that I now routinely agree with Glenn Greenwald is definitely a big one.

I've not been able to catch up as much as I'd like to, I didn't know they were going after Substack too and I just learnt that even the archive.is / archive.ph sites are apparently being cleaned out. How can no one see what they're doing is actual fucking censorship? This is so infuriating. The world's gone mad.

It amazes me that they’ve been able to so more than Isabella Jenks father. He works in cybersecurity and for the government.

She was involves with Chris Chan getting arrested and it was discovered soon after just how horrible she is too, like killing small animals horrible.

I really hope Josh reappears at some point to write more extensively about what he calls the cathedral. Otherwise known as the powers that be, "the vertically integrated messaging apparatus" (h/t Wes Yang), or more appropriately, the man.

Why is Parker Malloy even around?