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I'm not even from the UK but seeing what's happened to the Queen has honestly upset me. I'm in my early 20's, i didn't know her personally of course and yet it just gave me a lot of comfort to know that she was still alive and well and doing her royal duties.

I guess it's because she lived so long me and many others kind of adopted this outlook that she couldn't die, it was almost absurd to think about it happening. She was like a rock that was always there even when things around us were constantly changing. New world leaders coming and going, threats of nuclear war, wars breaking out, a whole ass pandemic. It was just nice to know that she was still there, that that hadn't changed.

I completely understand some people's dislike and even hate for the Royals, but i don't think it's a crime to miss someone even with their past being spotty. I just wanted to ask and seeing how you ladies were fairing with everything. I genuinely hope you're doing ok in this time!

I'm not even from the UK but seeing what's happened to the Queen has honestly upset me. I'm in my early 20's, i didn't know her personally of course and yet it just gave me a lot of comfort to know that she was still alive and well and doing her royal duties. I guess it's because she lived so long me and many others kind of adopted this outlook that she couldn't die, it was almost absurd to think about it happening. She was like a rock that was always there even when things around us were constantly changing. New world leaders coming and going, threats of nuclear war, wars breaking out, a whole ass pandemic. It was just nice to know that she was still there, that that hadn't changed. I completely understand some people's dislike and even hate for the Royals, but i don't think it's a crime to miss someone even with their past being spotty. I just wanted to ask and seeing how you ladies were fairing with everything. I genuinely hope you're doing ok in this time!

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I'm slightly worried. I think she was a source of psychological stability, not for me specifically but for the collective consciousness of the country, so to speak. Even for people who don't like the monarchy, the symbols still take root in you to some extent. A "queen" is a very potent archetype. Now, everything is already so chaotic and unstable, it looks like the winter is going to be bad and Truss is not going to do anything to help, and it feels like having her gone and replaced with Charles is only going to add to the sense of spiralling chaos in the months to come. I don't know what's coming but... feels bad, man.

Yes, very well said. I think it feels quite ominous because of the country is already so destablised, this is quite a blow.

26 year old UK woman here.

It is really shocking (weird to say, since she was 96!) but like you said, she was just always there, a kind of soothing and calming presence in the background of our lives.

I’m not really behind the monarchy and am not a royalist or anything, but I had a lot of respect for the Queen, she did her best and I think she really loved her country and her people and took her job very seriously - also, she managed to be inoffensive and non controversial for 70 years...not many people could manage that!

What about when "colored immigrants" weren't allowed to be clerical staff?

[–] susiesmum 4 points Edited

What about it? She was a figurehead, she had no real power over the law. In any case, Britain never had racial segregation enshrined in our legal system, unlike the US. Individual companies and businesses were allowed to choose who they hired based on race before the Race Relations Act of 1965 was brought in but it was never official government policy.

Honestly I have never heard about that. I don’t know a whole lot about the royal family, only that in my 26 years the Queen has (to my knowledge) been a pleasant and peaceful figurehead 🤷🏻‍♀️

I always assumed she wasn’t a racist as she had many alliances and friendships from all over the globe. She was (iirc) close friends with Nelson Mandela. Again, I don’t know that much, just bits I’ve picked up over the years.

i'm 36 so a bit older. i am not a monarchist but i'm not a republican ether, i don't mind us having this historic relic as apparently it brings in more tourist income than they cost and i guess i'm used to it.

i think the queen must have been so lonely when phillip died, it is normal for spouses to die shortly after each other. they were clearly so in love for a very long time. so i'm happy for her that she doesn't have to be in the pain of that grief any more. its lovely that she had her family close to her in her final hours.

charles looks like a guy who'se just lost his mum. its so sad that he has to do all this ritual when he should be allowed private time to grieve. given the royals don't really do much these days that's time sensitive, i don't see why they couldn't have given him some time.

it is weird not having her as queen any more. but i guess i just see them all as people, in odd circumstances, and feel sad for them the way i would any family.

i feel sad that her 4 dogs might get split up now, they've just lost their mum and now they might lose each other.

she seemed to live with dignity, had a huge work ethic, and projected the very essence of the word 'regal.'

If it helps somewhat, I believe Princess Anne is taking all of the dogs specifically so that they won't be split up. Also, apparently she spent a lot of time with them, so they know her well.

that does help, staying together with someone they know well is always the best outcome when pets lose their owners.

Hate to say it but I just read Prince Andrew is taking the corgis.

oh ffs, i wouldn't trust that disgusting nonce with a house plant. poor dogs.

Sorry for giving you false hope. :/ I should have held my tongue before an official press release. But I think at least with so many eyes on him, he'd at least make sure they are well cared for, if only to avoid bad press. Hopefully by a very loving, sympathetic aid. I have a corgi myself and I couldn't imagine making such a sweet loaf sad, let alone any other good boy or girl.

I received an Honour from Queen Elizabeth II for my work, which was lovely, and due to Covid I was able to meet the now King Charles III. Honestly cannot fault him, he was lovely. Really made people feel at home and was excellent to talk to. I guess 70 years of professional small talk training will do that to you.

As for the monarchy I think we really need to assess what a modern constitutional monarchy should look like. Because the Queen was around for so long we all just got used to the idea of being 'ruled' by the monarchy. But it wasn't really the monarchy, it was because people liked the Queen. It is rather odd and jarring to suddenly have all of this spectacle and politicians swearing allegiance to a King. It's a reminder that, actually, this was going on the whole time.

Timing could not be worse. People put a lot of faith into symbols, and things are looking very chaotic. I am imagining a very slimmed down future of the monarchy with only the immediate heirs in the media spotlight, and only the working royals that actually work receiving any kind of income. As it should be.

Oh, and return the Crown Jewels. C'mon.

I'm sad that she has gone. I don't think the men have the same attraction, can we skip to Princess Anne? She was also a great rider and for many girls who loved horses she was a great inspiration. She accomplished a lot and showed that if the Queen of England can do it so could every woman.

Agreed, I love Anne, I'm all for Queen Anne. I'm a former equestrian and lifelong 'horse girl' myself, so I always related to the Queen and her horse-loving daughter (and granddaughter, Zara) the most. I have no interest in the male heirs, they only 'inspire' apathy.

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I think the reaction has been a bit OTT. Everything is about her and just things like having "10 official days of mourning," it feels not like the kinda language that should be used in a liberal democracy and it almost feels like suddenly that is not what we are anymore. I am anti monarchy and any system where people are born into power they can't lose regardless of what they do. And I'm not sure exactly what they do any more anyway. It just seems like it should be a case that yes its sad, but like there shouldn't be footage of the car moving her coffin on the news and its just a bit OTT I think. Lots of it feels a bit like nationalist propaganda

Thank you OP, that is very thoughtful.

Feels really weird, like a lot of people have said, no one really expected it to hit them quite as hard. I never expected to feel a sense of loss but I do. It feels like a huge part of our national identity has died, for me anyway.

When the royal family stopped being seen in a religious capacity, they moved into more of a cultural one, a central part of British psyche. Although a lot of people justifiably don’t like them or agree with the concept (I am not including Andrew in these mild terms as he is a monster who should be in prison), the Queen was always there, in lots of different ways. It is the end of an era and it feels like the last pillar of our grandparents’ generation, along with their ideals and values has fallen.

She was symbolic of continuity, a link to a mythologised past when the UK was a global player not the shambolic disaster and laughing stock of Europe it's becoming. (Has become? Discuss.) I'm honestly more worried about what the future holds for us in terms of Truss' Conservative sorry, nothing conservative about them, can we call them DestrucTory? government dismantling the last vestiges of state.

I do think the Royal Family will struggle to maintain the popularity they enjoyed under Elizabeth II; it was largely down to her. As XxWomanxX has said, the rest of them are... well, a motley crew of paedophiles/paedophile apologists, idiots, and cardboard cut-outs. I'm not massively fussed what happens either way, it feels very far away from our day-to-day lives in a country where very shortly schools are going to have to choose between electricity and paying their teachers.

It's honestly not something that enters my day-to-day thoughts, unless someone brings it up. I'm no fan of the monarchy, and I think it's high time we became a republic.

My only hope is that Charles will make some changes. He seems to truly care about environmental causes, so hopefully he'll do something good there. I don't have high hopes for that, but I tend to think any changes will be good. That may be wishful thinking.

It is strange, however, to think that we have a king and not a queen. As much as I dislike the concept of the monarchy, at least we had a woman as monarch.

23 year old UK resident here , I’m just dreading what King Charles will be like, not that the royals have too much say in how the country is run, I’m still skeptical that he will be as committed to his duty when he couldn’t even commit to Diana .

In my family we are anti royals ( Scottish) so there’s been lots of discussions on how they have too many palaces for one family (paid for by us peasants lol) How King Charles cheated on Diana and got engaged to her when she was 16 and he was in his 30s 🤢, the infamous tampon text lol, the fact that the royals left two mentally disabled siblings to rot in resident homes never to be visited, the racism etc.

But I am saddened that the Queen died, out of all the royals she was the least problematic. I don’t want a king, least of all an old one like Charles.

She did her duty up until the very end and I can’t blame her for her god awful sons actions. She even got to star in some films before she died , she kept her opinions to herself , out of public scrutiny which is probably why she is favoured.

We hate the pedo Andrew though , for him bring back the guillotine imo (jk ... but what if? 👀)

We hate the fact that the Queen bailed him out though , the sweaty, slimey nonce should’ve had seen some punishment for his crimes.

Just haven’t got much hope for the future of the royals when we have to pick between two pedo brothers, a dumb ginger with no GCSEs that wore a Nazi outfit, racists and out of touch posh toffs etc it’s bleak. The Incestuous cretins need to be humbled tbh.

Although I will say King Charles at least wants to help the environment, but his solution to that was to convert his Aston Martin to run on left over wine 😭.

[–] ProxyMusic 15 points Edited

How King Charles cheated on Diana and got engaged to her when she was 16 and he was in his 30s 🤢,

For the record: When Charles and Lady Diana Spencer go engaged 1981, she was 19. He was 32, so there was still a 13-year age difference that many consider unseemly. But Diana wasn't a 16 year-old girl still in school.

two pedo brothers

For all his many faults, I don't think Charles has ever done anything that warrants calling him a pedo.

I am saddened that the Queen died, out of all the royals she was the least problematic. I don’t want a king, least of all an old one like Charles.

Queen Elizabeth was 96 when she died. She reigned for 70+ years, which is nearly as long as 73-year-old Charles has been alive. I totally understand why many people oppose the monarchy and have a low opinion of the current bunch of royals. I thought Robert Smith of The Cure made great points in his videotaped response to the Queen's death. But I still don't get why Charles being 73 makes him serving as king more "problematic" and objectionable than it was for his mother to serve as queen in her 80s and 90s - or it would be for a younger man to be king.

a dumb ginger... Incestuous cretins

WTF? Harry has no control over the coloring of his hair or skin. As for the second slur you used, here's the Oxford dictionary definition of cretin:

1 (offensive) a stupid person (used as a general term of abuse).

2 Medicine, dated a person who is physically deformed and has a mental disability because of congenital thyroid deficiency.

This is not an attack on you for the record

I don’t want an old king because I’m worried he’ll bring his old views with him. Misogynistic and racist views is what I would be worried he has.

For the record I did not know cretin meant that I just use it colloquially tbh - I’m British and it’s used pretty often- my bad. 23 and heard the word all my life amongst peers , never thought much of it tbh.

As for the ginger comment I was only describing him? As he is ginger , also you skimmed over the wearing the Nazi suit bit btw weird take away honestly.

They are incestuous - Queen Elizabeth was married to her cousin Philip. All royals are products of incest. Incest is not a total insult but more of a descriptor again. The royals have a long history of marrying family members.

The pedo comment still stands regardless And I won’t back down from that one, no 30 year old man has any business marrying a 19 year old.

At least you aren’t standing up for Andrew but if King Charles was just an ordinary citizen , would you be supportive of him marrying a 19 year old ? Cause I know I wouldn’t.

The racism of that family is abhorrent and disgusting, I cannot / will not support them.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk lol

I don't think Charles is racist at all, or even misogynistic for that matter, he's always struck me as a sort of fun "nature-loving uncle" - so I don't dislike him on that account... But I do share a worry with you, that through having a "King" the consciousness of the UK may shift, because I really do think having a Queen as a figurative head of state does actually give something to the women and girls of that country, and to how the men may view women in SLIGHT ways... I'm worried that having this male figure as the new figurehead of power is going to do some bad for the status and viewing of women and women's power in the UK, now. Not through the specific fault of Charles, but just by the removal of that maternal and matriarchal power, and the insertion of a male one.

[–] Rheya 13 points Edited

American so maybe I don’t get the whole Diana thing.

I feel sorry for all of them—Diana, Charles, and Camilla. Charles was prevented by patriarchal ideas regarding virginity from marrying the love of his life and found himself in an unhappy marriage (edit: to a woman he may have found frustrating due to the age gap). They both cheated because of pressure to keep a doomed marriage going, and Diana seemed a bit immature at times, though I certainly don’t think it’s abnormal to be slightly unstable in her situation. I feel sorry that William and Harry know that their dad only superficially loved their mother, and that the love of his life wasn’t her.

I wish Diana hadn’t been recruited to be some fairytale princess instead of her having her own life. I feel bad that Charles and Camilla were kept apart. The marriage never should have happened.

I understand Charles (and Diana) cheating is bad, but I’m not sure if they ever would have been allowed to divorce if their affairs hadn’t blown up publicly the way they had.

I'm 46 and like the vast majority of people alive today have only known a Queen as head of state. It bothers me that it's very, very unlikely I will see another one in my lifetime. It's Kings all the way for most of this century now unless Prince George should die early and childless.

It actually makes me a little bit glad Truss was elected PM even though I don't particularly rate her. Things seem so bleak for women and girls right now going back to all men, all the time would add to that feeling of bleakness.

I also echo the sentiments of being worried about the loss of stability at what is already a troubled point in history.